🎓 Dr. Freemo 🇳🇱 @freemo@social.cleverlibre.org

@Coyote

See my other response. here is where a scientist debunks why that link you shared is bogus:

https://youtu.be/hqe3MhV9-MU

@akeno

@Coyote

Here is an actual scientist debunking the claim and link you just posted (specifically addressing the doctor by name in that link). I wont even bother getting into debunking it myself as this guy already said what needed to be said:

https://youtu.be/hqe3MhV9-MU

@akeno

@akeno

Nice, proof that the scientists arent bias and when they notice a mistake in their work they will retract it.

@10grans beg

@HealthRanger I wouldnt say all that. COVID is obviously real, and it is serious.. but yea, they probably saw it as an in to push vaccine passports and that may have even driven some of the exaggeration as to its seriousness. But I suspect the over the top fear mongering had more to do with getting Trump out of office than the vaccine passports. Not that I mind him out of office, dude was an idiot, but Biden is even worse.

@Coyote

Ahh ok. yes, if he could learn to make logical arguments he would quickly learn why his arguments arent logical... I agree.

But knowing this type of person I honestly dont think he is even capable of self reflection or changing his opinion on something. He is of a group of sad sack people who never really grow intellectually because they draw conclusions in the first 30 seconds of hearing about something and then never change their opinion no matter what evidence comes their way. They just collect everything that remotely makes it sound like their right, look no deeper, and call it a day.

@10grans @akeno

@akeno

I get the feeling you dont have the brain cells needed to understand that a list of studies that did not happen to purify the virus (as it didnt need to for the purpose of the study) in no way inplies that the virus was never isolated in **any** study. I already linked yesterday studies where the virus was scanned and described in isolation.

@Coyote

@Coyote

You misread my intent.. I have no intent to argue with the dude and get him to understand. I already know he is a lost cause. At this point my only intent is to mock the completely absurd and psychopathic ideas he utters just so other people reading the thread dont get the sense that this moron has any sense of reality in the least.

@akeno

@skells There are no real rules.. though every community kinda has their own.. QOTO we are kinda "anything goes just dont be an asshole", and we give people the benefit of the doubt on if they intended to be an asshole..

As for the rest of the community, well, it depends entierly on the group your interacting with.. Some are very sensative and expect you to carefully censor yourself.. others are so uncensored they are abrasiveness, in your face, and rude as a matter of course, and like and expect you to be the same in return.

Luckily you can get a sense for what sort of etiquette will be expected simply from the server the person your are interacting is coming from.

@Coyote

Everyone dismisses dumbass schizoid ideas.. that usually causes the people who beleive it to just repeat themselves over and over again like a broken record... You cant argue with stupid, willful ignorance is a choice not a conclusion.

@akeno

@akeno Exact quote:

"The first cluster of cases trace to a market [the fish market]. It still isnt clear if the Wuhan Market was the source of the virus, though outside experts beleive it was a starting point for the outbreak where chinese officials took samples over a year ago. Why has the data not been shared?"

Yes she is very clearly talking about the samples from the wuhan market and explicitly asking why the data **from those samples** has not been released. This was the response:

"They didnt isolate the virus..."

Yea buddy.. looks like your the liar, either that or you didnt even look at your own evidence. Either way your a joke.

@akeno Did you even watch the video, thats not what he said... He was asked about the fish market and the data specifically out the fish market. He stated the issue was that while they tested the animals and it tested positive they never isolated the virus from the samples **at the fish market**, and that he suspected the source of the virus was somewhere else.

What he did **not** say is that we never isolated the virus at all/in general.

So yea, pretty sure im sticking with who the idiot is here.

@Algot this has almost a illusory efect.. takes my brain a little extra effort to recognize that the lines are in fact straight, it keeps wanting to think they are tilted to the left.

@akeno links to an idiot that agrees with you is not evidence you are right.. it just means there is more than one idiot.

@akeno

::Herp derp::

You: We offer 1 million award for proof of covid

::thousands of doctors offer undeniable proof of covid::

You: Not like that, you have to prove it in a way that conspiracy theory know nothings that would never admit they are wrong wind up admitting they are wrong... silly doctors!

@pthenq1

No Tuesday is the start of Ramadan. Eid is the end of Ramadan about a month later.

@deesapoetra

@trinsec you might view it as a paradox, but it may be a perfectly valid representation of how time travel works all the same (then again it might not be, i mean time travel is very theoretical after all)

The more I understand quantum physics the more the idea of a casual loop makes a lot of sense to me. Consider two things.. first off in QM particles can just pop into existence out of nowhere. So at a very small scale causality doesn't hold true, it only holds true at larger scales. Two virtual particles (particles that dont quite exist yet but sorta do) will never turn into real particles unless they are consistent with reality in some way. In other words on a quantum level as long as there is self-consistency anything could happen (though may be unlikely).

So to me time travel with a causal loop makes perfect sense. There could be many different possible realities and the one that is true is the one that was always going to happen.

Let me explain it with a sort of example... lets forget about time travelers going back specifically to stop hitler from becoming evil for a moment and lets think about a reality kind of how your are thinking about it. That is before any time travelers are involved hitler is a nice dude, and just becomes a painter and no WWII. Now lets say some future time traveler who is just a psychopath for whatever reason really hates hitlers art and is just obsessed with killing the dude for no reason at all. Said time traveler tries to go back in time and tries to kill hitler. He fails but the attempt on hitler's life makes him bitter and ultimately turns hitler evil.. Now the future is changed, hitler from the perspective of the future isnt just a good guy painter but a legit bad guy, this time around the time travelers go back with the intent of killing hitler for being a bad guy, and they still wind up turning hitler evil for the same reason as before. But now the first reality is gone, time travel erased it. So all we really see is a relatity with a causal loop and we never see a "big bang" event because it never manifested, it was erased from all of space time by future iterations.

You can think of the first reality where hitler was a good guy a bit like a virtual particle, it never came into existance and became real because the real reality was always going to be the end result. It was basically a self-fulfilling prophesy that was always going to happen.

To put it another way you can think of time as something that changes and forms a totally new timeline maybe an infinite number of times every time a time traveler goes back in time.. this happens over and over again until finally it reaches a steady state where a casual loop happens, at that point that is the final time line and it is "stable" as it is self-consistent.