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@icedquinn

We kinda already are.. hard to find many comemrcial rooftops or overhands without them these days

@nanook @Genen @Coyote

@icedquinn

You also couldnt install your own solar panels in one.. but the owner of the apartment complex could.

@Genen @Coyote

@icedquinn

My dad's home has solar on the roof, and uses geothermal cooling/heating (the normal kind anyone can do, just bury some pipes and run water through it)... between the two they paid for itself in total in a little over 5 years and he produces all the power he needs.

@Genen @Coyote

@Coyote

Yes no doubt there is some room for improvement. Only so much we might see 2x - 4x theoretical improvement on efficiency, maybe a little more.. Which nice.. but it will never be what fusion can be, and even without that it is still viable now.

@icedquinn @Genen

@JSDorn

im not sure id make the time travelers jews.. wouldnt want to make them the bad guys.. that would be way too loaded.

@trinsec

@JSDorn

Wouldnt matter because the time travelers turned him evil.. in fact thats the point. if it werent for the time travelers he never would have been evil.

@trinsec

@icedquinn

Solar is already viable.. its just not great at high power, too many panels for too little energy. That wont ever change. But its perfectly viable for lower to medium energy needs.

@Genen @Coyote

@icedquinn

Give it a decade and you might just have a chance to use some fusion power.

@Genen @Coyote

@mur2501 I mean just this month alone I've made a damn fortune :) and I made a lot in the crypto boom a while back... I am very grateful that when it comes to investments I have a pretty good track record. But in crypto, just because I understand it intimately from a technological standpoint, I've done exceedingly well.

@icedquinn

Depends who you ask.. seems to me their timeline since the first operating tokamaks were build has been relatively predictable and on schedule. A bit of variance as science wasnt even sure if it would work at first, but were at the point where we have pretty good confidence it will and the reactor that can do it is already built and the big bugs proven out. but for almost a decade now its progression has been pretty much on schedule.

@Genen @Coyote

@mur2501 I have no right advising anyone on investment... I risk my money and no one elses... But cardano has me excited for some really nice returns this year and next.

@anonymoose

Actually there is a pretty decent chance of a simulated universe. But even if we are in one, doesn't change the fact that in this simulation the sun is far away and the stars are farther.

Now of course when i say things like "zero doubt" that doesnt mean that i can never under any circumstances change my mind. But you would need rather extraordinary evidence to convince me the world is flat, so it isnt something I doubt, but it is something that you are more than welcome to prove if you have such evidence.

@Genen @Coyote

I suspect the Cardano crypto is going to skyrocket this year. Next month they release smart contracts on the test net and plan to move it to production/mainnet by august. That is the game changer that is going to bring cardano to the top tier. With the general boom in crypto right now cardano is where I have a lot of my money right now... I have big expectations!

@Coyote

Its not about the IPCC or endorsing them or anything else. The science behind that model was developed independently from many scientists. It was just presented there.

@Genen

@Coyote

the earth is big, so any solution is going to have to be at a global scale and setup long before we are at 0 hour. So sure you might solve the solution by creating some sort of crazy high tech bacteria powered tree that scrub CO2 or whatever scifi solution. But youll still need millions of them (or any solution) around the globe. And frankly, isnt it easier to just plant some trees and use some nuclear/solar/wind/tidal energy and call it a day? Why rely on a hail mary when we already have the means to solve the problem.

For that matter, why hold on to the old polluting ways of doing things at all.. coal is so inefficient, you gotta mine the stuff, and use it in massive quantities.. switch to nuclear or solar or whatever and your talking about 1/100th the effort for the same power.. even if it wasn't cleaner there is no reason not to really.

Also lets not forget fusion is getting really close to being a thing. We are about to bring our first fusion reactor online that will produce usable energy in a year and over the course of the following decade ramp it up to full power as we tweak it. Fusion power is likely only a few decades away from being the norm. While that shouldnt stop us from going green now (as it is viable) that may very well take it to the next level.

@Genen

@Coyote

By the way here is some background on the image I posted if you care to read it. The model is from the IPPC 4th assessment report in early 2000

https://climate.nasa.gov/news/2943/study-confirms-climate-models-are-getting-future-warming-projections-right/

@Genen

@Coyote

Things arent looking great, but we are only doomed if we do nothing to stop green house gases. Huge strides have been made so prediction into the future arent so bleak, it bought us some time thankfully. But if we keep converting over to a greener world, and we are already making huge strides on that, any disaster may very well be averted.

@Genen

@Coyote

What are you on about, that chart doesnt show a 0.1 degree change in 30 years, it shows a 1.0 degree change in 20 years, 13x more than the figure you just stated.

@Genen

@Coyote

its not about finding a model that just happens to fit.. I showed you the **prevailing** model.. these models arent complex by any means, they are realtively simple and easy to compute, and there is very strong agreement among scientists. This was **the** model of the 2000s and it turned out to be right.

You are grasping at straws. In the 70s there also wasnt consensus yet on a model.

@Genen

@anonymoose

To some extent I agree. But there are certain things with so much overwhelming evidence zero doubt is perfectly fine. I have zero doubt the earth is not flat, I have zero doubt the sun is far away, I have zero doubt the stars are even farther away, and I have zero doubt over the 3 points I mentioned regarding climate change.

Some things are so overwhelmingly obvious given the body of evidence that having zero doubt is perfectly ok.

@Genen @Coyote