I mean, pretty obvious he did, or at least had every intent to... He was told the dude bad no pulse yet continued to sit on him for 3 more minutes and refuse to let the other officer help him. Pretty obvious intent.
@Nudhul
Not what i said, nor is it what 3rd degree means in context. 3rd degree is not exclusionary of second degree. 3rd degree only suggests the action was negligent, it does not require that negligence to be unintentional.
Anyone convinced guilty of second degree is always automatically guilty of third degree, though you cant always try someone for both at the same time, that depends on the state, but guilt of one always implies guilt in a lesser degree.
@Nudhul
I am well aware.. he wanted to kill the man but he didnt plan it before hand (second degree) and in doing so he acted neglegently (third degree). This isnt rocket science.
@Nudhul
They arent contradictory. One is second degree murser the other is 3rd degree. Literally a lesser form of the other.
@Bubbul @ChristiJunior @coolboymew
@Nudhul
It makes sense because they are served simultaneously so they dont actually represent additional penalties. It is common practice to do this incase the stronger charge doesnt stick.
@Bubbul @ChristiJunior @coolboymew
@Nudhul
I am literally neither a leftist and have called out cnn as bias and not news many times.. nice try
@Bubbul @ChristiJunior @coolboymew
@coolboymew
Both the cop on the scene said he had no pulse, and he is trained in taking a pulse, and the emts who arrived said he had no pulse. So yes chauvin continued to sit on his neck 3 minutes after a trained police officer said he jad no pulse.
@Bubbul @ChristiJunior
@realcaseyrollins
He did not pass away on the way to the hospital. He had no pulse when thry picked him up and continued to have no pulse on the way to the hospital. He was declared dead on the way to the hospital after attempts were made to restart his heart were not successful, as is common. But he was identified as having no pulse when Chauvin was still sitting on him and it was recorded on the cameras as such. Even after being told he had no pulse he still refused to let the officer help him.
@coolboymew
I never denied that. Does t change the fact the Chauvin continued to sit on his neck even after he was told he had no pulse... No other evidence of any kind makes hi. I. Ocent when thst fact is true.
@Bubbul @ChristiJunior
@coolboymew
Ive posted the autopsy several times on my feed, yes obviously i read it.
Dude was unconscious for 4 minutes and he sat on his neck. Police officer identifies him as having no pulse and chaivchauvinin still sat on his neck 3 more minutes.
None of the other points you make are the least bit relevant beyond that. When you sit on someones neck with no pulse, your intention is clear to murder him, period.
@realcaseyrollins
Mot true, the EMTs said they did not detect a pulse in Floyd when they arrived on the scene. He was dead before entering the ambulance.
Provide your source please.
@ChristiJunior @coolboymew
@realcaseyrollins
He sat on his neck with the intention of limiting his ability to breath... Even after his heart stopped he continued to sit on his neck. How in the world can you justify sitting on a guys neck after he is unconscious a d even after he is identified as having no pulse. Your opinion is mind boggling
@coolboymew @ChristiJunior
Fyi even after the cop literally said he had no pulse he continued to strangle him... So the whole "drug addicts are unpredictable" is all well and good but once he is dead they become pretty damn predictable and does t excuse the continued strangulation rather than resuscitation.
@realcaseyrollins
Cant see how it isnt justice... A police officer literally strangled the man intentionally for 4 minutes after he was dead (or atleast unconscious). Other cops objected on sight asking to check if he was ok and he physically refused to let them check on him properly. Even after cops said he had no pulse he **still** continued strangling him... How can that be seen as anything other tham intentional murser.
@coolboymew
None of that excuses shit.. a few people standing around docile doesnt make your murder excusable. Again once the man was unconscious he just sat there strangling doing nothing else. Thats not handling the situation. He. Ould have told the other officers to handcuff his feet once he went unconcious and get off him after he was cuffed. Dude woukd have still been dead but then i could atleast see some possibility of it not being second degree murder. But no he just sat there strangling a lifeless body and doing little else, no excuse.
@ChristiJunior
@VarnaNecropolis
Tha ks, I appreciate that, I will
@anon00110
@VarnaNecropolis
Mostly because your little tantrum has no emotional effect on me either way other than amusement to see you flail like a racist moron.
@anon00110
@coolboymew
They were, but they were also completely docile until he literally died then one dude started creeping up but immediately backed down. Either way its not a free ticket to kill someone or denying other cops the right ti check on his safety. Once he was unconscious him continuing to strangle him was obvious intent to murder.
@ChristiJunior
@valleyforge
I cant imagine any juror in their right mind coming to any other conclusion, mob or no mob. The case was clear cut and obvious of his guilt and intention
@icedquinn
@coolboymew
Who said anything about relaxing. Once he was immobile you cuff his feet and hands, no relaxing needed. There is no excuse for strangling a man for 4 minutes after he is unconscious.
@ChristiJunior
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