🎓 Dr. Freemo 🇳🇱 @freemo@social.cleverlibre.org

@travis

funny how your literally acting like an autistic moron right now with your tantrum by trying to trigger me because I found your joke stupid.

We call what you are doing projection.

@icedquinn

@icedquinn Then my apologies for misunderstanding. Yes coronaviruses as a class mutates over time and having various strains of any coronavirus is not particularly unusual.

@travis

Prfectly reasonable response to someone not finding your joke funny because it was just a collage of random words with no punchline...

@icedquinn

@travis

Yea, just happens to be a bad one.

@icedquinn

@xianc78

I havent seen any evidence to suggest that a virus other than SAR-COV-2 can cause COVID-19. However there are a few variants of SAR-COV-2 for sure, but its all the same strain as far as we know.

@icedquinn

@icedquinn Either way, your statement was incorrect.. there is no meaningful link between SAr-COV-2 and the common cold

@icedquinn It wasnt about the gramatical structure, it was about the incorrect facts it inferred (which were still incorrect once you corrected your wording).

@icedquinn "THE" coronavirus has no meaningful relationship to the common cold.. full stop.

@travis

Huh? There is no general category called autism that is confused with a colloquial term of "the autism" meaning something different... so this makes no sense.

In the case of coronavirus "the coronavirus" doesnt mean anything remotely similar to "a coronavirus" (which is why scientists do not call it the coronavirus at all).

@icedquinn

@icedquinn Not at all, the distinction is quite important... there are **not** 400 varients of the coronavirus known as the cold... There are many different viruses that cause cold symptoms, none of which have any relationship to "the coronavirus"

@icedquinn Sure, but what you stated is flat out incorrect, the cold doesnt have 400 mutations, nor does "THE" coronavirus. The cold is not descriptive of a type of virus nor are they all varients of some class.

The cold is a set of symptoms and is defined as such, independent of the virus that cuases it. Only about 15% of people who get the cold have some type of Coronavirus class of infection (none of which have any relationship to THE coronavirus). The vast majority of cold cases are caused by an entirely different and unrelated class of viruses (rhinovirus). There are also about 6 other categories/classes of viruses that can all cause the common cold.

your entire interpretation here is complete wrong.

@herag

I really hate the character limitation on other instances, I feel ya.

So as for your argument, obviously I disagree, but semantically we are on level playing field now at least.

@anonymoose @null0x0 @Albright

@icedquinn How did you get that from my statement? I didnt even address lockdowns at all.

@icedquinn That is a very disingenuine interpretation, and really your choice of "variation" from a technical position is flatout wrong.

The common cold is not "THE coronavirus" nor is it a variant of it... "THE coronavirus" refers to a specific species SAR-COV-2, which has only a small number of variants.

"Coronaviruses" mean something completely different than "THE coronavirus". That refers to a class of viruses of which there are many (400+) strains, of which "THE" coronavirus is only one.

Strains are to species as variants are to subspecies. A cold virus is NOT a variant of "THE" coronavirus.

@herag

I find people rarely stop and think about the meaning of the words they use. They kind of just get a feel for the word and use it when it feels right... Thats fine for casual conversation but it really causes problem when we are trying to be precise and have a logical debate.

But im glad i could shed some light on that and show why its important to be mindful of our choice of words when we are trying to make a logical case. Precision is everything.

@anonymoose @null0x0 @Albright

@anonymoose

innate/natural rights are those rights a person would have if no other humans existed... plop a human in the middle of a jungle and whatever they are are free to do there would consitute their natural rights.

So being free of slavery would be a natural right. Being allowed to steal other peoples ideas, not a natural right.

@herag @null0x0 @Albright

@barefootstache No it literally applies to almost anyone.. Even whole foods that have some level of potassium tend to be too low to provided the minimum daily...

Take coconut water, you would need 20 cans to reach your daily minimum (and this is one of the highest sources of potassium).

Consider bananas. You'd have to eat 1.1kg of banana a day to get your potassium requirement.

So no, evena whole food diet it is very hard to get your needed potassium intake and like i said virtually **everyone** is deficient.

@stux Pretty sure every male child masters this skill shortly after puberty :)