🎓 Dr. Freemo 🇳🇱 @freemo@social.cleverlibre.org

@sapphire

This guy clearly doesnt have the first clue about weapons or the AR-16.. he is just spewing propaganda and talking points.

@namark @trinsec

@namark

This is true, though I have seen rather well armed police in other countries too.

@ademan @trinsec

@namark

Removing the **sole** quality that makes it suitable for military use is not a "minor tweak"

Apparently you werent listening (or choose not to). The M-16 was designed to have low power/momentum specifically so on automatic fire a person can use it without falling on their ass or having their aim wildly thrown off by the recoil.

One you remove the automatic fire capability it has no relevance or use as a military weapon of anykind.

This is not a "minor tweak" it completely changes the utility of the weapon.

@sapphire @trinsec

@namark

Virtually all police in the USA carry a gun on them or in their car. There are few exceptions to that.

@ademan @trinsec

@lain

Suprisingly I agree with you.

For me the general rule should be that any weapon the US military, national guard, or police force is able to wield on US soil for use against its own citizens should likewise be permitted by the general population.

@namark @trinsec @ademan

@namark

No, there is a middle ground.. It is quite good and a wonderful weapon for rodents and small game. It is popular for a reason... A military weapon it is not, at least not without automatic fire which is the only thing that made it remotely useful to the military.

@trinsec

@namark

No, they dont, wow you really are clueless about guns yet seem to have an opinion... now thats a delusional way to approach the topic.

No an AR-15 has about 1K ft lbs muzzle velocity, which is the lowest muzzle velocity of any rifle on the market. It is literally only barely acceptable for even small game.

1K to 2K is considered useful for small game, 2K to 3K for small game, and 3K up for large game.

Please learn your facts before calling people delusional.

@trinsec

@angelobottone It tells them they have bodily autonomy and the right to what they wish with their own body... that it is their choice and no one elses.

@namark

I never claimed the AR-15 was not a war weapon simply because of intent. I pointed out real world functional reasons why it isnt (it isnt powerful enough to be useful in war at all, it isnt even powerful enough for deer hunters).

As for you knowing what a hunting rifle is used for.. again the AR-15 is litterally used by the overwhelming majority of owners a rodent and small game hunting. The reason it is the most popular gun in america is because virtually every farmer owns one and uses it for that reason.

@trinsec

@namark In fact, quite the opposite is true. They are designed specifically to **not** be useful in wars.

@namark

Incorrect. The AR-15 is not designed to wage a war and has never been used in a single war. Their primary purpose is "small game", as in, farmers shooting at rodents and moles to keep them off their land.

An AR-15 is not even powerful enough to use for deer hunting.

You are likely thinking of the M-16, which has a similar design but is an entierly different gun and is only capable of being used in war due to being fully automatic, which really only works as such because of it being a low-power rifle with low kick back.

@trinsec

@trinsec no worries

@trinsec So you worded yourself poorly. It has nothing to do with the intent of the person making it at all :)

@trinsec No you'd still have the right to bear an AR-15, but according to your "rule" the AR-15 would just have to be manufactured by a person who did not intend it as a weapon.

@trinsec So guns are ok but only if they are produced with the intention that they wont be used a weapon? Seems like a rather arbitrary standard to me. Who cares what the person making it "intends"?

@lucifargundam second i saw "microsoft" and "rack-level" I just couldnt stop laughing :)

@timorl No worries, please let me know if it happens again.

@trinsec People have used it as a weapon in some quite brutal assaults. They usually fill a jar with it and splash it on someones face. It can blind and disfigure.

@trinsec yes everything modern and dangerous should be banned.. cars, guns, SCUBA, drain cleaner...