🎓 Dr. Freemo 🇳🇱 @freemo@social.cleverlibre.org

@coyote

Be specific, what statement did I make that is false? I never claimed Ivermectin didn't have a safe human equivalent or even that it might not play a role in medical treatment. What it isnt is a first line preventive when vaccines are available. Also what it isnt is an over the counter drug people should be injecting into themselves just because they cant convince a doctor to unethically prescribe it as a preventative before vaccines are even considered.

@sergeantcat

@icedquinn

No one is claiming that ivermectin might not have a role to play in some doctor orchestrated treatments. There is, however, a huge leap from treating a vaccinated person who had a breakthrough infection, and one who thinks the vaccine is a hoax and is injecting himself with cow dewormer because they think its safer and healthy as a preventative on its own.

@sergeantcat

@sergeantcat What was the answer?

@olamundo @hans_w also no, unvaccinated countries are very unlikely to introduce vaccine resistant strains. A vaccine resistant strain can not thrive in an unvaccinated country and will likely not have a high enough R0. So it wont ever get beyond a dozen or so infected individuals (if it even gets that far) before dying off by being out competed by the main branch.

The only way a vaccine resistant strain is likely to get very far is when it is created in a vaccinated person with partial immunity or hops directly from patient 0 to a vaccinated person.

So vaccine resistant strains need vaccinated people in a high perpetration of the population to be a potential. As you get closer to 100% vaccination (when herd immunity inst possible) you increase the chances of such strains rather than decrease it.

@olamundo

Yes of course, no i understand that.

The point is without vaccinated people you never get vaccine resistant strains. However even if you vaccinated 100% of people, since the vaccines cant achieve herd immunity even at 100% vaccination then you will get vaccine resistant straints even with 100% vaccination.

So its clear through simple inductive reasoning that you need vaccinated people to produce vaccine resistant strains, you dont necessarily need unvaccinated people to do it (the only exception being if you could achieve herd immunity and cause the virus to become extinct or near to it.

@hans_w

@olamundo

Saying it just selects them is almost the same thing. If they arent selected for the main branch out competes them and they die off and never proliferate.

@hans_w

@iceloops there are a lot of routers that you can load custom firmwares on actually, and quite a few firmwares to pick from

You know you are getting old when you have lived through an transmitted during 2 solar cycles.

Kinda excited to see the solar cycle peak again over the next few years. Already back on the rise!

@Science #ham #hamradio #radio #RF #EE #Electronics #AmateurRadio

@mk

People are taking ivermectin (might have spelled that wrong). Some are getting it through doctors but since doctors wont prescribe it and supplies ran out many have resorted to getting the version for cows and taking that. Even Milo apparently injected some.

I'm actually really surprised you havent heard about it, its a big thing and apparently unnervingly common.

Just do a google search, if you still cant find it I can dig them up for you.

@funny

I get a certain evil pleasure out of knowing all those raging conspiracy theorist kiddies who always comment on my threads about how COVID is just the flu and other nonsense and then rage quit calling me a sheep are now out there taking livestock medication and dying (or getting very sick).

But yyyyeeeeaaaaa the vaccine is the real risk ::rolls eyes::

#covid #vaccine #Corona #coronavirus #funny #joke #humor @funny

@category_mirrory The general rule of thumb is anything more than 2 standard deviations is considered significant.

I can calculate that specific number for you if you'd like.

It is interesting to note that getting an unusually high number correct would be just as significant, and just as deserving of further investigation, as getting a significant number wrong would be. If someone got 0 correct that might strongly indicate the person is psychic too.

@iceloops I would not be surprised if the extender is the exact same hardware just with different firmware loaded

@hans_w well strictly speaking it is the act of getting vaccinated that introduces new varients that are vaccine resistant