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@special-boy

Maybe, I have cricticized that it may be impossible for other reasons. Animals carrying it may not make it impossible if their viral load is low enough and thus the R0 among animals is below 1.

@GodfreyHendrix @swiley

@Eris

Wrong yet again. Different studies used different methods. Some rely on what the doctor says, others, more reliable ones, use double-blind studies and random samples with blood tests, yet others that are even more relaxed simply classify anyone who dies while infected. Every list defines its own criteria.

@special-boy @swiley

@Jackuu

Oddly we agree. The forced vaccination tactics in America is unacceptable and myself am in part refusing to get vaccinated in protest to that. If/when I get vaccinated (when J&J gets out of emergency use most likely) I will do so anonymously for said protest.

@D00B @Eris

@special-boy

No there is no universal way a dath is classed as covid. There are hundreds of seperately maintained covid death lists all of which define different criteria for getting on the list. If you are using one of those lists you should be mindful of that criteria.

@swiley

@Eris Yes many humans, particularly ameicans, are small minded. Not really all that worried about what small minded people think of me though.

@Eris not really except that some small minded people might make the wrong assumptions that I am.

@Eris Being the enemy is not the same as being a pro-vaxxer.. I do agree that i am "the enemy" of many anti-vaxers despite not being a pro-vaxer.. I'm also the enemy of many pro-vaxers since i call them out on their own bullshit.

@Eris There is when that "too simple model" turns out to be wrong due to its lack of complexity.

I can oversimplify Pi to be just the number 3.. for most applications that will give you wrong answers becaus eit was oversimplified.

@Eris No it doesnt, and this just illustrated how your black and white overly simplistic thinking leads to an inability to reason.

I can be against the vaccines and still think the majority of people who are against the vaccine are idiots and dont understand the details. Even a broken clock is correct twice a day.

@Eris My expiernce is anytime someone oversimplifies everything to simple black and white they dont understand even the most basic details about a subject and are likely incapable of doing so.

@Eris Clearly you werent listening, I'm not a provaxer. In fact I explicitly stated I am not vaccinated and am vaccine hesitant and dont think vaccination is a good idea at this time.

So anything else you stated shows you are clueless about me and my opinions.

@Eris Sorry but the world isnt as simple as you seem to want it to be.. cant agree with that in the least.

@Eris Anyone who is judging me off an isolated comment is someone I really could care less about anyway. So really couldnt care less, but your right im sure people are going to judge me based on an out of context remark and infer all sorts of nonsense all the time.. I guess i just dont give a shit.

@Eris You are wrong.. the very fact that you had to say "set of shoulders" implied there are multiple "shoulders" to blame.. admitting to my point.

@Eris People deduce your opinion based on the comments you make over time. No one in their right mind looks at one isolated comment about one thing and assume that is the whole of their opinion. They would look at my history of comments, discussions, and ask questions and then gather the bigger picture to judge me.

IF you are drawing conclusions about my stance from one post on one specific aspect of a topic then you arent really forming a complete picture.

@Eris The fallacy in your logic is that only one thing "causes" something.. Not how it works. Any event is caused by a countless number of contributing factors. If i lick a doorknob and die of COVID you can say that COVID caused the death because if it didnt exist I wouldnt have died. You can also say licking the doorknob caused my death because had I not licked the doorknob I would not have died either.

@Eris This thread is one-sided. It addresses one issue with one side. Is there some rule that says every thread must call out every issue on every side at all times?

Anti-vaxers being idiots dont get a pass just because CNN are idiots for the other side. ?You being an idiot is not excusable if other people who disagree with you somewhere are also idiots. (general you here, not you specifically)

@Eris I'm not? I've called CNN murderers plenty of times.

@bot

Yes they can, No one said anything to the contrary.

@Eris @bebe @swiley

@Eris CNN along with any mainstream media, is not a scientific source. They, like fox news or any other media, spew nonsense.