🎓 Dr. Freemo 🇳🇱 @freemo@social.cleverlibre.org

I dont usually get dessert but being in the country and all i figured some Shoe Fly Pie was in order.

Despite the fact that i leave for a 3 month vacation in a few weeks I decides in thr middle of the night to take a two hour trip into the mountains and rent a hotel for 2 night. I plan to mostly just enjoy the pool and head yo the highest elevation on the nearby mountain and transmit some #HAM radio QSO.

The room i rented is gigantic. Its so big most of the space feels wasted.

@swiley

Agreed on that. I will oppose vaccine mandates in every way possible.

@pthenq1 @twotwenty

@twotwenty

Yes its lack of efficacy is a fine argument against it. I am just saying there is no argument for danger other than a very remote one. But as you say however remote give its ineffectiveness its kinda pointless regardless

@pthenq1 @swiley

@twotwenty you can not compare VARES numbers for several reasons not the least of which being a policy difference between emergency issued vaccines and traditional vaccines

With COVID vaccines they must report all adverse effects, even ones known to be unrelated. With traditional vaccines there is no requirement to report at all by law, and the reporting criteria is much less pervasive.

You can find this explicitly stated on the VARES site (I've had to screen shot it for arguments here many times)

@twotwenty

1) I agree that based on current science and obervation that the vaccines have become fairly useless against Delta. Recent studies show now reduction in viral load on delta which implies from limited data that the vaccines no longer play a role.

2) I think it is completely incorrect however to suggests the vaccines pose a real danger. The cases we see of injury, while real, are extremely rare and overall its such a small percentage of people taking the vaccine that its simply not true to suggest they post any danger of significance. You probably are in more danger of disease and dying from going out to eat at a resteraunt.

@pthenq1 @swiley

I havent watched Boyz n the Hood since I was a kid. As a kid it was me and my cousins favorite movie for a while. Anyway rewatching it now and I have to say I regret not watching it again sooner, it really is very well done and the acting is amazing.

@pthenq1

No doubt Trump has to shut up. That said while I can agree the News has been bias and lacking in journalistic integrity (what you call editorializing) since before Trump, and yes they will show their bias on most presidents, I have never seen it even approaching the levels that it did for Trump.

Obviously I think its fine to say that while journalists should be called out for their lack of journalistic integrity outside of the scope of Trump, that Trump also incites this very sort of reaction, so it very well is contributed by Trump by making himself a Target.

But regardless of who's fault it is that mainstream media displayed the worst side of themselves in the most extreme fashion to date, the fact remains that this behavior is ultimately a strong component in what caused Trump's supporters to rally in the first place.

@saitei

@pthenq1

Thats why i also included extreme bias in my statement. Before it started witht he media very clearly and against all expectations of good journalism, had an agenda against Trump. They would routinely lie, distort, or provide half truths to paint a picture of Trump worse than he was. I would say journalists going out of their way to obscure the truth is very similar and a precursor to outright censorship.

In the end outright censorship was where it ended, so that is clearly included in the overall picture too, which again seems to have just radicalized his supporters further.

@saitei

@pthenq1

I dont entierly disagree with the idea that Trump would have potentially lead to an autoritative regime, its entierly possible. It is certainly true his supporters at least have a lot of racism to go around (not all, but a lot of them).

Funny thing is you are just proving my point. Trump was censored or otherwise clearly biased against in the media. This is the very reason his supporters grew so fanatical in the first place. So this case proves my point more than anything. Even now his supporters seem more extreme than ever.

@saitei

@Simpadoo

As a data scientist let me just say you'd be surprised how many things we keep data on. Not all data is comprehensive enough, but there is data to some degree on almost anything.

https://www.latimes.com/science/newsletter/2021-10-19/coronavirus-today-homeless-people-persuade-peers-to-get-covid-vaccine-coronavirus-today

https://laist.com/news/health/a-secret-to-the-success-of-vaccinating-las-homeless-giving-them-cell-phones

@saitei @pthenq1

@pthenq1

Well said, agree here.

@saitei

@Agris

that just means freestyle roleplaying is like a game of zork where the author is a furry apparently :)

@icedquinn @natalie @purple

@raucao

"Making an observation about people is not the same as judging people. Also, "judging" in Jung's definition is more about how you create your personal reality than it is about judging people."

A true statement, though not a decense here. 1) A judgement is a particular type of observation, one where a person draws a conclusion based on what he is observes, particularly a negative one. By the definition of a judgement this qualifies 2) even if we are focusing on the aspect of a judgement a a point in defining ones personal reality, it does that too. This statement ultimately judges people in a way that is trying to construct a very specific personal reality.

Jumping to conclusions is another matter, judgement is a general case, some are valid and others jump to conclusions and thus are invalid. Not all judgements are bad.

@jmc464

@pthenq1

While I do agree with you, that chauvin was absolutely guilty in every respect, I do want to point out that just because a court decides something to be true does not garuntee it to be true and is thus not an argument for truth (see fallacy Argument from Authority)

@saitei

@pthenq1

Yup started with Bush, was continued with Obama with skill, then amplified to absurdity with Trump, and now continued with Biden.. no sign of it ending any time soon.

@saitei

@Agris

I feel like I'm playing a sequal to zork after the author had decided he was a furry.

@icedquinn @natalie @purple

@pthenq1

yes obviously in a sense this is true. The difference is just that in south california mexicans are still a large majority.. the rest of america whites have managed to kill most of the native population off which in a sense makes them no longer guests but rather the owners of the "house"

@saitei

@pthenq1

"But Afro-Americans killed without reason by cops definitely is not a white problem."

Strongly disagree there. This problem is two fold 1) cops kill people without justification, both white and black. There is a problem in policing in america that tgoes way beyond the race issue 2) There is a race issue there as well because while police will kill unarmed whites and unarmed blacks and it is an issue for all, blacks are more strongly targeted so there is an amplification of the base problem for blacks that is rooted in some sort of racism.

So I'd say it very much is a problem for whites, just as there is a black/racial component there that needs to be considered too

@saitei

@saitei

Agreed, its been going on a very long time. Trump was just the loudest and least tactful about it.

@pthenq1