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@joaopinheiro @freemo If one must engage in the tactics of lies and deceit, if one conspires in the dark policy that should be public, transparent, and clear, if one promotes the spread of hate over love of facts and truth, one has become the monster. That isn't "Anti-Fascist," it's "Sparkling Rainbow Nazi." They can own it.

Moderation complication, nazis 

@freemo @Gargron @trinsec @khird I saw both, and the new one is certainly better. Even that, though *could* be misread as implying that he had accepted the Nazism itself, rather than that he had ... yielded? ... to the Nazi's attacks on qoto. Of course, anybody might see the word "Nazi" in the headline and stop reading there. I realize communicating the point in one headline is *very* difficult.

Maybe: "Eugen Rochko, CEO of Mastodon, Yields to Attack on LGBTQ+ Ally Site"

@polygeek Than you I appreciate that.. ITs good to have you as part of the family

@freemo That's quite a read. Thanks for taking the time to dump the details. I knew nothing of this when I recently joined QOTO but I'm glad I accidentally made the choice. I respect what you're trying to do and the effort you have made to keep this a safe place for a variety of communities.

Keep fighting the good fight!

@arh@mstdn.io @freemo If Mastodon as a project is going to be built on lies, deception, and hate, the reality of those choices will "occur" and reality doesn't much give a damn about our feelings or respect our assumptions of control over it. Reality just "happens."

And hoping to use lies and deception to strangle an instance into quiet death and submission isn't very realistic.

If that hurts the Mastodon project as a whole, so be it. There were other honest, clear, and open paths to take. Those paths were not chosen. So be it.

@arh@mstdn.io Thank you, yes it does... Reach out if you need anything or have questions

@bitpirate We actually have one of the largest footprints in the fediverse (top 20 last I checked). The instances that block us are largerly saingle user instances. very few large instances block us

@freemo He doesn't care about the truth! He prefers fake news and doesn't even bother about listening to both sides of the story, any story! That's why I have him blocked since he erased my one-year-old account at mastodon.social without ever having given me any justification for it. That's kind of Nazi behaviour, I would say, isn't it?
#mastodon #eugene #gargron

@arh@mstdn.io I agree, bringing eugen's attentions to the public eye will in fact hurt mastodon as a while. This is why I am hoping he decides to at a minimum engage in a conversation before it spreads too far.

@squell hackyderm has removedus fromt heir blocklist.. supposidly the server itsef will remove us once they update

Moderation complication, nazis 

I hesitate to boost this, because people only reading the headline might misread it as "someone is accusing Eugen of *being* a Nazi, which is either true or a melodramatic Godwinization" or "Mastodon is full of Nazis".

TLDR:

1. Our instance, qoto.org, came under attack by an actual, swastika-waving Nazi. Mastodon is by no means full of such bad actors, but they do exist. Freemo provides evidence and history of the attack.
2. This bad actor created enough disinformation noise that Eugen chose to delist qoto from joinmastodon to protect the reputation of Mastodon. This was a win for the baddies.
3. Debates over proper moderation and federation policies are complicated and can grow heated.

@freemo @Gargron @trinsec @khird

(Interesting thing I learned when autocompleting those tags: there are several accounts impersonating Eugen.)

🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱  
After hearing some feedback,a nd wanting to be fair in my representation, I have change the title of the article. It is now: Eugen Rochko, CEO of M...

Moderation complication, nazis 

@peterdrake

I think maybe you read the old title.. the new one clearly states he caved to the Nazi and was not a nazi himself.

@Gargron @trinsec @khird

So I decided to post the article I wrote (linked below) on twitter and am going to dump some money into promoting it there. Gotta get some attention to this. Go boost over on twitter if you'd like.

Eugen Rochko, CEO of Mastodon, Caves to Nazi's Agenda

jeffreyfreeman.me/eugen-rochko

@Gargron

@rbe_expert

i need to look them up for you, but I recall seeing handful of instance lists and directories before.

@modrobert @Gargron @trinsec @khird

@squell

for what its worth in terms of reach (number of peopel you can interact with and can interact with you) last time I checked QOTO was in the top 20.. So you will have a pretty good connection here compared to other locations.

The few instances that block us tend to have block lists a mile long. So only way to move to have access to those servers is to be on a server that blocks out most of the fediverse.

@unamanic

@rbe_expert

Alternatives exist. But as the official directory this one does have the most impact.

@modrobert @Gargron @trinsec @khird

@freemo @Gargron @trinsec @khird Looks like the Mastodon CEO took the path of least resistance, by doing so he lost integrity. Perhaps it's better to ignore joinmastodon[.]org than to bother being listed on their site? Lacking integrity might mean they sell out in other ways as well, such as allowing government control, increase censorship, etc.

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