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@ejg The idea here is that the UFI itself wont need to be universal, but its due process log will act as a tool for those in and out of the UFI...

Any claims against or for servers in the UFI will be logged and the evidence logged and transparent.. So if an instance out of the UFI want to decide for themselves they still have access to the evidence and can make their decision in an informed way.

@ejg The idea is that if someone is not moderating their community then they can be czalled out for it and will be kicked out of the UFI... thats why we have a evidence based due process... as long as there is evidence then they wont last in the UFI.

@ejg The intent is to make sure that those not in the UFI are **not** seen as bad actors.. I explicitly left out any concept of assuming non-UFI members were bad actors. The idea is that if you arent in the UFI people in the UFI can judge on an inndividual basis how they want to handle you

And yes it adds a layer of beurocracy, but the intent of that layer is to ensure blocking is done in an informed and evidence based manner

@Gina I think you are the only one left who didnt hear about it... I posted this here, which actually explains the drama, but the result was its now all over the fedi and in the news and everyone is talking about it:

jeffreyfreeman.me/eugen-rochko

@Gina I assume you've already heard all the fedi drama im at the center of? Other than that stressed and busy, but my company is still on track to go public so everything is good in that regard.. personal life is a bit boring, have a girlfriend now though, but sadly i dont get to see her as often as I'd like.

@Romaq

Well said and I agree, the public forum will be critical and notthing is final without public discussion. We just want a good starting point is all.

@ejg

@dashrandom

Yea while an open forum will be an absolutely vital step before enacting the UFI I think it is critical to first curate a group of people interested in it in private, get a decent first draft, and ensure there is some degree of support before going public. Only to counteract the irrtional nonsense flying around.

That said we already have a decent following brewing so i think when we do go public with it in the next few days it will be well balanced and give us a chance to make sure everyone is heard all the same.

@ejg

@ejg The discussion WILL be int he open, we just need to refine the draft enough that it makes a good first impression.. the intent is to put it on a git instance and open it to **everyone** to submit feedback and vote before enacting anything.

@ejg I am fine with a backlash, but i wannt to make sure the backlash is once the idea is refined enough... people often wont take a second look if initial impressions arent good.

@ejg We can create a provision where they are allowed to silence said instannce (not defederate) temporarily until the hearing is settled.. easily solves the issue.

Keep in mind an instance has to go through an approval process to get in, this means they are checked to see if they have a history of such problems.

@tsomof I agree its a problem, a big one... shall I consider you an interested party then (I will send you the draft and get you involved int he convo when i start the thread)

@ejg Would you like to see a copy of the current draft in private?

@freemo why not just publish the draft first and have the discussion in the open? I would think you could generate more interest that way.

Have you reached out to other instance admin about this?

I feel like this could result in some negative unintended consequences. De-federation, and the social threat of de-federation is the main tool to apply pressure to instance admins that are not sufficiently moderating their community.
This seems it would make that process harder.

@ejg The intent is to do just this.. I just want a good starting point to kick off the discussion.. So im starting with a private discussion, going to refine the draft there, then im going to open it to everyone to contribute.

Yes I am working in private to get some admins and even users on board. I dont want to go public till we have a decent number of supporters just to help counter any backlash people might throw at us.

To your comment about making it harder... sort of.. an instance can always leave the UFI for starters, second, that process SHOULD be harder, at least in terms of collecting evidence and having some due process. The beauty is having curated evidence means even servers outside of the UFI can, if they wish, use us as a source of fact-checking..

@daviding

If facts could quelch this drama it never would have started in the first place.

@internetarchive

Oxygen levels at the time of activation determine T cell persistence and immunotherapeutic efficacy biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/20

Hands down I have the coolest picture on my Company's website :) Everyone is a bit jealous of me now.

scentech-medical.com/our-team/

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