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NOTE: If anyone wants to be added to this list just let me know.

Ok so this seems to be most of the people who publicly stated they had interest in developing the "United Federation of Instances". All of you should have gotten the first draft and opinions were heard and discussed.

Today I will be moving the first draft over to git (either git.qoto.org or gitlab.com). From there I will encourage each of you to provide suggestions as to edits there, and raise discussions in issues. This way we will be public and have an open transparent forum that keeps the changes on record.

While public feedback is being debated on the proposal I will begin a rough draft on the complete by laws (which will try to represent the broader points in the proposal document). That too will be on gitlab and open to discussion

From there as the movement grows we can begin discussing launching it.

I suggest all communication on the fediverse about this use the hashtag so it is easily searchable.

Since this is a public post I will now share the link to the early draft here, please keep in mind everything here is open for discussion so if anyone doesnt like the current direction, please speak up, we want you to be heard.

jeffreyfreeman.me/files/united

@skanman @floppy @john @stevenclyman @robryk @ejg @dashrandom @Romaq @ichoran @AlanOutback @tsomof @aebrockwell @Ryle @tatzelbrumm @Gaythia @ichoran @realcaseyrollins @stux@mstdn.social @stux@masto.ai @trinsec @khird @darnell @jq

@tonic

Thanks, agreed. I think helping first hand, interacting, talking, caring about someone, goes a lot farther than just donating. Not to dispparage donating, if your donating your doing good and should be proud. Just saying people need more than just tthe money, they need someone who cares, personally.

@marathon0

@tonic

I am generally distrusting of for-profit media but in the case of ukrain I have not seen any big issues with NYT so they seem like a good source on this.

@marathon0

@tonic

I prefer tto take direct action. I have helped pay for a few ukranians to flee. That said I do enourage others to contribute however they can.

@marathon0

@tonic

I was more curious about the extermination camps... the bombing of civilians is horrific on its own but I have a good idea about that already.

@marathon0

@niclas

Most admins are ok with defederation from instances who deserve it in their mind. Most admins are reasonable in who they think deserves it (when not under peer pressure). Most admins seem to block instances with rampant harassment. While we dont defederate here I am not advocating everyone needs to be anti-defederation, just be reasonable and informed about it.

@dusnm

@tonic

If you have any sources, please share, I'd like to read more on this, thanks.

@marathon0

@jasonesman Its easy to say when you;'ve nearly exterminate a people and soved them into small reservations with slum like conditions and no resources to sell ... yea at that point the victor saying "Ok lets just forgive and forget and move on from here". Forgiveness comes with actions that lead to redemption, I havent seen that in our history or our present.

@jasonesman I have no idea what you rpoint is... Yes of course they engage in wars with eachother, I never claimed they were saints. That doesnt justify a campaign of extermination on our part, full stop.

@ceoln

We have never been a troll instance. Our rules have clearly stated since our founding 5 years ago tthat our users are expected to interact respectfully, if they dont they get booted. While our rules have expanded and matured that has always been a foundation of our rules.

When people accuse us of being a troll instance in the past do two things.. 1) Ask for a link to an example of trolling (or photo) 2) make sure the post was reported (it is always possible something can slip though)... 3) after making sure irs reported check to see if moderators take action (if its legit we would have and do).

@Bec @Canageek

As Qoto is heating up, I appreciate the amount of activism here, 95% of the time it's well done. Other places, people get emotionally triggered, and drop a forcible opinion with no reinforcement. That's not activism, it's reactivism. That makes me proud to be a member here.

@louis Yea, there is a bit of poetic justice to it I suppose, even if its not how I want to see things go down.

@bonifartius So i just looked at the list... I do agree the soap box thing is nonsense but as far as I can tell no instances are blocked becaus eof it. In the notes it lists soap box but the reasons listed in each case is not soap box related.

As of the moment it appears 111 **known** instances have defederated to some degree from Mastodon.social. Most likely unknown instance count is much higher.

People are claiming this is a result on the article I wrote, which largely cited facts with photo evidence and effectively accused Eugen of caving to a Nazi's agenda.

I do **not** want to see anyone defederating from mastodon.social. However, my article presented the facts, made no suggestion to anyone to defederate. If those those facts cause people to get mad with Eugen and defederate, so be it, thats his fault for not being a better person, for not having a discussion about his decisions. I wont take blame simply for exposing truths, the reprocusions are on him not me.

The irony is what is happening to him is the same thing happening to me as explained in that article. The difference is what is happening to me is largely fueled by lies which Ive disproven. Cant say the same about Eugen

Anyway, I do hope all of you will stop defederating and start talking. I'd much rather see people try to talk to Eugen and tell him why he is wrong and get him to be better than anything else. Perhaps stand up to the misinformation you hear as well and do some fact checking so doesnt get wrongly accused of lies while your at it.

@tonic

Regardless of what they call it, do they outright murder people in these camps as you suggest or what?

@marathon0

@marathon0 I object to russia s use of sexual violence as a weapon of war and filtration camps where they exterminate civilians - what’s your favorite thing about genocidal Russia - please tell me

@tonic

They are executing civilians in camps? Jesus christ I didnt know all that.... Regardless I knew russia was pretty evil

@marathon0

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