🎓 Dr. Freemo 🇳🇱 @freemo@social.cleverlibre.org

We should probably decide if it should be

@ufi

or

@ufoi

the latter lining up with the domain name (which i will donate to the group and not take control of).

@floppy
@skanman @john @stevenclyman @robryk @ejg @dashrandom @Romaq @ichoran @AlanOutback @tsomof @aebrockwell @Ryle @tatzelbrumm @Gaythia @realcaseyrollins @stux@mstdn.social @stux@masto.ai @trinsec @khird @darnell @jq

Creating a group sounds like a good idea (was going to bring up the QOTO group server again soon which has better tools than gup.pe).

That said I think using the hashtag #UFI or #UFOI will do better for comms here. Plus once its on GIT maintaining a list here will be less critical and I think the hashtag and/or group will cover that well.

So yea, agreed basically

@floppy @ufi @skanman @john @stevenclyman @robryk @ejg @dashrandom @Romaq @ichoran @AlanOutback @tsomof @aebrockwell @Ryle @tatzelbrumm @Gaythia @realcaseyrollins @stux@mstdn.social @stux@masto.ai @trinsec @khird @darnell @jq

@sozialwelten

At qoto we have a much higher character count, some other instances have it as well. That said you are welcome to wait till its on GIT where you have more characters as well, up to you.

As for those who are against the idea and wish to protest it by being silent, thats up to them. Either it will hurt their cause because they wont get a voice, or it will have their intended effect... But we cant account for people who refuse to speak.

@skanman @floppy @john @stevenclyman

Quick thought. I just ran out and bought the following two domains for this:

UnitedFederationOfInstances (both .com and .org)

and

UFoI.org

Perhaps we should move the hashtag to #UFoI instead? Thoughts.

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@icedquinn

I need to check the mod tools on mastodon... you might be right. I've only seen blocking all media, and ive been able to make media senative from an individual user... gotta see hwo we do that on an instance level... worth discussing.. lets try to leave that to GIT once its posted.

@Ryle @ejg @floppy @jq @dashrandom @stux@masto.ai @stux@mstdn.social @stevenclyman @darnell @aebrockwell @AlanOutback @Gaythia @ichoran @JoshuaACasey @khird @robryk @Romaq @skanman @tatzelbrumm @trinsec @john @tsomof @realcaseyrollins

@bonifartius I would not have mentioned Soapbox if i ran the list... so yea....

@icedquinn

Yes we could potentially handle this by having a shared list of instances that allow nudity in plain site.. users can then choose to adopt that block list if they want.

The problem with this approach is that it forces users to either block nudity entierly, or allow it in plain view. In the end I think this will harm people who wish to share nudity since it will force people to block them even if they want to see it some of the time. By requiring a CW instead these people will get more exposure since users can choose to uncover the CW or not and thus arent forced to take an all-or-nothing approach.

@Ryle @ejg @floppy @jq @dashrandom @stux@masto.ai @stux@mstdn.social @stevenclyman @darnell @aebrockwell @AlanOutback @Gaythia @ichoran @JoshuaACasey @khird @robryk @Romaq @skanman @tatzelbrumm @trinsec @john @tsomof @realcaseyrollins

@dashrandom

Would you like to be added to the list so you can get notified when i post it on GIT and you can join the discussion?

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@farooqkz @skanman @floppy @john @stevenclyman @robryk @ejg @dashrandom @Romaq @ichoran @AlanOutback @tsomof @aebrockwell @Ryle @tatzelbrumm @Gaythia @realcaseyrollins @stux@mstdn.social @stux@masto.ai @trinsec @khird @darnell @jq

Didnt quite post it yet. Soon

@JoshuaACasey

That is worth a debate once it goes to git. I agree that sex workers should not be shamed. If they wish to show pictures of themselves that arent nude they are welcome to do so. But at the same time most people dont want nudity in their feed, especially when they view it in public spaces. It isnt about the sex workers or if their work is shameful or not, its more about nudity showing up on peoples screen at work or other places where it will get people fired.

@skanman @floppy @john @stevenclyman @robryk @ejg @dashrandom @Romaq @ichoran @AlanOutback @tsomof @aebrockwell @Ryle @tatzelbrumm @Gaythia @realcaseyrollins @stux@mstdn.social @stux@masto.ai @trinsec @khird @darnell @jq

@farooqkz

Agreed, needs a comma, ill add it... Try to save your bigger edits though for git so anything controversial can be discussed.

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NOTE: If anyone wants to be added to this list just let me know.

Ok so this seems to be most of the people who publicly stated they had interest in developing the "United Federation of Instances". All of you should have gotten the first draft and opinions were heard and discussed.

Today I will be moving the first draft over to git (either git.qoto.org or gitlab.com). From there I will encourage each of you to provide suggestions as to edits there, and raise discussions in issues. This way we will be public and have an open transparent forum that keeps the changes on record.

While public feedback is being debated on the proposal I will begin a rough draft on the complete by laws (which will try to represent the broader points in the proposal document). That too will be on gitlab and open to discussion

From there as the movement grows we can begin discussing launching it.

I suggest all communication on the fediverse about this use the #UFI hashtag so it is easily searchable.

Since this is a public post I will now share the link to the early draft here, please keep in mind everything here is open for discussion so if anyone doesnt like the current direction, please speak up, we want you to be heard.

https://jeffreyfreeman.me/files/united_federation_of_instances_proposal.pdf

@skanman @floppy @john @stevenclyman @robryk @ejg @dashrandom @Romaq @ichoran @AlanOutback @tsomof @aebrockwell @Ryle @tatzelbrumm @Gaythia @ichoran @realcaseyrollins @stux@mstdn.social @stux@masto.ai @trinsec @khird @darnell @jq #mastoadmin #fediblock

@voidabyss Happy to: https://jeffreyfreeman.me/eugen-rochko-ceo-of-mastodon-found-to-support-nazis-agenda/

@niclas

Most admins are ok with defederation from instances who deserve it in their mind. Most admins are reasonable in who they think deserves it (when not under peer pressure). Most admins seem to block instances with rampant harassment. While we dont defederate here I am not advocating everyone needs to be anti-defederation, just be reasonable and informed about it.

@dusnm