🎓 Dr. Freemo 
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@freemo@social.cleverlibre.org
- UFoI Member
- http://UFoI.org/u/freemo/
- Website
- http://JeffreyFreeman.me
- Gitlab
- https://git.qoto.org/freemo
Admin
Jeffrey Phillips Freeman
Innovator & Entrepreneur in Machine Learning, Evolutionary Computing & Big Data. Avid SCUBA diver, Open-source developer, HAM radio operator, astrophotographer, and anything nerdy.
Born and raised in Philadelphia, PA, USA, currently living in Utrecht, Netherlands, USA, and Thailand. Was also living in Israel, but left.
Pronouns: Sir / Mister
(Above pronouns are not intended to mock, i will respect any persons pronouns and only wish pronouns to show respect be used with me as well. These are called neopronouns, see an example of the word "frog" used as a neopronoun here: http://tinyurl.com/44hhej89 )
A proud member of the Penobscot Native American tribe, as well as a Mayflower passenger descendant. I sometimes post about my genealogical history.
My stance on various issues:
Education: Free to PhD, tax paid
Abortion: Protected, tax paid, limited time-frame
Welfare: Yes, no one should starve
UBI: No, use welfare
Racism: is real
Guns: Shall not be infringed
LGBT+/minorities: Support
Pronouns: Will respect
Trump: Moron, evil
Biden: Senile, racist
Police: ACAB
Drugs: Fully legal, no prescriptions needed
GPG/PGP Fingerprint: 8B23 64CD 2403 6DCB 7531 01D0 052D DA8E 0506 CBCE
Joined Jul 2018
@voidabyss yes we will still federate outside the UDoI no worries.
@dump_stack Hi. I'm trying to see what admins might be interested in being founding members of the UFoI (see attached link). Someone mentioned you might be interested? You can back out at any time, so no obligation if things go south. We just need to define who will be the founding members (we have a few already).
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I am now compiling a list of all servers who may have an interest in joining the United Federation of Instances. Quite a few instances have already...
@voidabyss No, members must federate within the UFoI but they are welcome to federate outside the UFoI as they wish.
No you don't.. you have a right to leave anytime with no need to answer to anyone. So if that happens to be the case that you are called out and do not wish to go through the due process you can just leave. We have a rule in place that if you do the process is dropped and instances wont defederate or block you en masse.
The key to this is people can accurse you of something without talking about it, and going through due process... but as I said you can always just leave and avoid it all.
I am now compiling a list of all servers who may have an interest in joining the United Federation of Instances.
Quite a few instances have already signed up.
Please reach out to me, all servers of any size are welcome!
This is non binding, its just to get a preliminary list. You can withdrawl at any time and dont have to go through the application process. I just want to know what servers to reach out to once we begin kicking things off.
If you are a server admin please let me know **in DM** if you have an interest and I will add you to the (for now) private list. I want to only release the list once we have enough momentum so please respond in DM only.
for those who are new to this you can read the proposal here:
https://ufoi.gitlab.io/constitution/united_federation_of_instances_proposal.pdf
You can read the early draft of the full bylaws here:
https://ufoi.gitlab.io/constitution/united_federation_of_instances_bylaws.pdf
Both of these will still undergo a lot of modification. For information on how to join the conversation see this post:
https://qoto.org/@freemo/109433298021890915
You can see the progress and conversation specifically at the official repo here:
@ZySoua yes im well aware. Did insay anything tonthe contrsry
Level headed majority... Is this your first day on the internet? ;)
@admitsWrongIfProven @derickflorian @toxomat @ceoln @PaulaToThePeople @SecondJon @shelenn
it isnt about subjective vs objective.. its about responsible due dilligance vs pitchforks and gossip... You cant replace due dillagnace by just averaging a bunch of people from a mob with pitchforks.
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@freemo @LouisIngenthron @derickflorian @toxomat @ceoln @PaulaToThePeople @SecondJon @shelenn To hammer this down further:
I come from not twitter, but another platform where insults are forbidden, but being mean is not something that moderators would react to.
Accordingly, i built some neural pathways to accomodate. My mode of operation was "i can troll the trolls". Whoever is nice, nice. Whoever not, let's see who wins.
So i was looking around here and thought "i hear negative things, i should troll the trolls". I have hence understood that this does not make sense in this environment. Even just being mean is so extraordinary that i do not need to. And that includes the users from other instances i have encountered.
I even was sure someone was arguing in bad faith one time, but after i said i wanted to disengage that was honoured.
This is a place that has no physical location, but a great appeal.
That works fine for email systems where the admins are relatively impartial... doesnt work so well in a fediverse where people block you if you dont use their block list... We are seeing now just how easy to game the system is, you have tons of good actor instances getting targeted because of dumb reasons.
@admitsWrongIfProven @derickflorian @toxomat @ceoln @PaulaToThePeople @SecondJon @shelenn
The one thing people love most about QOTO it is our friendly nature where we treat people like a friend at a coffee shop, not an enemy to debate.. lets hope the #UFoI can bring that feeling to the wider fediverse.
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@LouisIngenthron @derickflorian @freemo @toxomat @ceoln @PaulaToThePeople @SecondJon @shelenn
I would worry about their unknowing users strung along.
1. Make an instance that promotes positive values
2. Acquire many users in line with those values
3. Act against those values
4. Oops. All blocked.
I think a lot of people that would be welcome here would be blocked. That is why we should absolutely go forth with freemos initiative. Not to protect qoto, but to promote human communication.
It was always a thing, people breaking down communications to advance nefarious goals. I think we could even make a better world, if we could protect good faith communication from trolls.
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On the one hand, I am very encouraged that a group of instance administrators who aren't cultivating, as a German politician would put it, "mimosenhaftes Beledigtsein"
[mimosa-like hypersensitivity], are finding a collective voice and speaking up.
On the other hand,
I see a lot of energy for this initiative originating from a strong feeling of unfair censorship based on arbitrary and capricious rules
(it's a strong motivation to get involved here for #metoo),
but I see a tendency to try and define yet another set of rules, with the tendency to go too much into detail.
A translation of the Starfleet Prime Directive into a Categorical Imperative would be:
"Act only according to that maxim whereby you can at the same time prevent that your will, or anyone else's will, should become a universal law of the United Federation of Instances."
The big difference for me is I am not thinking of this as some universal truth or law... im thinking about it more in terms of "What are the principles vast majority of reasonable people will agree to.. Something that an overwhelming majority will all hear and go "Yea that seems reasonable to federate with".
Morality should play a roll in that, of course. But I do feel we can find something that is both moral and satisfies the majority of instances.
I agree, and its why I think the #UFoI stands such a good chance of succeeding and counter that... the central idea is dialog, evidence, and due process.
United Federation of Instances was recently discussed on a russian podcast. I cant understand it myself but someone told me about it.
The UFoI is really taking off, and its been what, 2 or 3 days now! This is very exciting.
- UFoI Member
- http://UFoI.org/u/freemo/
- Website
- http://JeffreyFreeman.me
- Gitlab
- https://git.qoto.org/freemo
Admin
Jeffrey Phillips Freeman
Innovator & Entrepreneur in Machine Learning, Evolutionary Computing & Big Data. Avid SCUBA diver, Open-source developer, HAM radio operator, astrophotographer, and anything nerdy.
Born and raised in Philadelphia, PA, USA, currently living in Utrecht, Netherlands, USA, and Thailand. Was also living in Israel, but left.
Pronouns: Sir / Mister
(Above pronouns are not intended to mock, i will respect any persons pronouns and only wish pronouns to show respect be used with me as well. These are called neopronouns, see an example of the word "frog" used as a neopronoun here: http://tinyurl.com/44hhej89 )
A proud member of the Penobscot Native American tribe, as well as a Mayflower passenger descendant. I sometimes post about my genealogical history.
My stance on various issues:
Education: Free to PhD, tax paid
Abortion: Protected, tax paid, limited time-frame
Welfare: Yes, no one should starve
UBI: No, use welfare
Racism: is real
Guns: Shall not be infringed
LGBT+/minorities: Support
Pronouns: Will respect
Trump: Moron, evil
Biden: Senile, racist
Police: ACAB
Drugs: Fully legal, no prescriptions needed
GPG/PGP Fingerprint: 8B23 64CD 2403 6DCB 7531 01D0 052D DA8E 0506 CBCE
Joined Jul 2018
