🎓 Dr. Freemo 🇳🇱 @freemo@social.cleverlibre.org

I'm such a nerd.. A dutch friend of mine remarked "One reason the Dutch are so good at english is when you go to the movies we dont have voice overs, we use closed captioning instead"...

I replied "no you don't", and he protested before i pointed out it is literally impossible for a movie theater to show closed captioning because by definition closed captioning implies the viewer has the control to turn it off and on, which you cant do at a theater. He was referring to open captioning :)

@admitsWrongIfProven Sleep well, good chatting

@hakologist I am not accusing you of it... but I never claimed to speak for all native americans either.

@admitsWrongIfProven People on the internet are too eager to disagree... I find if you try to listen people agree more often than they realize.

@admitsWrongIfProven the issue you are talking about though isnt "bad people being seen causes bad people"... what you are describing is engineering the information in its totality or near totality. Controlling the narrative, preventing the ability to get accurate information. Thats a different problem but we agree is problematic.

@hakologist No, can you?

@admitsWrongIfProven I do not think people are born bad, but I also dont think ideas turn people bad.. Actions and how people are treated do, combined with poor or biased reasoning skills about how they integrate these expiernces.

Most racist people, for example, seem to be racist from a young age, in which case it is done in an attempt to be accepted by their family, usually parents. When I see a person become racist later in life it is usually because of negative experiences they had or witnessed. What ive never seen is a person who was decidingly not racist go "Hey ya know what, bill told me black people are violent, I am going to hate black people now"

@physicsninja I spent a lot of my teenage years there.. it is very sad.

@physicsninja They no longer existed, but it was this place: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Valley_Nature_Center

@hakologist As a person with native american heritage I cant say I approve

@admitsWrongIfProven I've had tetris syndrome briefly a few times.. its always weird when it happens.

@physicsninja Oh wow, you are in my home town. I grew up in chester county. Worked at a nature reserve actually as a volunteer.

@admitsWrongIfProven You havent actually made the case that being exposed to ideas can do harm. Your example is a bad idea, sure, but you havent made the case that it was exposure to the idea that is the cause rather than the predisposition of the people to draw such conclusions on their own. It is very likely such ideas would largely have developed independently of exposure.

Do ham radio operators that use a lot of CW ever get Tetris Syndrom? Must be weird going outside and seeing random flickering lights as if they are a string of random letters/

The idea that bad people having a voice on social media causes other people to become bad people (often the argument as to why we must defederate from bad servers) is equivalent to:

Thinking violent video games cause people to become violent.

Thinking explicit song lyrics cause people to become criminals

Allowing people to be openly homosexual will cause others to become homosexual

Banning books

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Yea i struggled finding good unbias data as well..

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@trinsec we dont pronounce things on the internet @kent_j