🎓 Dr. Freemo 🇳🇱 @freemo@social.cleverlibre.org

@rrb

Which is why you never compare countries to answer this question, way too many factors at play... also why a granger causality test for a country against itself before and after a fun ban, looking if it effects various types of violence is a far more credible way to analyze the question

@DutyBard @pj

@DutyBard

None, you dont compare countries to each other, you compare a country to itself both before and after a gun ban... The effect (change in violence or rape rates or whatever) should follow the effect (a ban on guns or a revocation of a ban) with a time delayed lag (roughly the time it takes for the effect to take effect).

You do this, comparing several instances across several countries, and see if a pattern emerges.

@rrb @pj

@swagpussc Congrats, working in israel I really need to learn it myself!

@DutyBard

inb4: make sure if you evaluate overall deaths you do so relative to a change in a law within its own country (what we call granger causality test)... To compare between disseparate countries as an absolute is likewise intellectually dishonest for other reasons.

@rrb @pj

@DutyBard

Sure, and do you understand why that statistic isnt just irrelevant to the conversation but intellectually dishonest...

I said this elsewhere in a co-thread but ill say it again.

**Of course** gun deaths are less in countries that ban or restrict guns.. much in the same way that vaccine deaths would be less in any country that bans vaccines. That is an argument people use who are trying to use stats to manipulate people rather than provide a fair and objective argument. The argument for guns is that it **prevents non-gun deaths** not that it prevents gun deaths. Much as the argument for vaccines is that it prevents non-vaccine related deaths, not for presenting death by vaccine.

@rrb @pj

@Geoffberner One can hope...

@Pat No youtube video and news isnt my lens.. the fact that police officers are 4x more likely to commit abuse and similar statistics is what ultimately drives my opinion...

But youtuve is more effective for arguments.. go to long island audit as a perfect example.. its not a compilation of the worst of youtube.. it is one guy who is VERY transparent (and even talks about his hit or miss ratio)... he goes constantly to places and peacefully films and then shares all the police violations against him. Its an endless stream of violations and quite clear that it isnt "inflated" since he is not just transparent and fair in his dealings, but its one man so he can only go so many places...

@Geoffberner Actual change? No the democrats (nor republicans) never wanted that.. that would mean doing actual work that people could judge... focusing on how much the other person sucks is much easier

"Sure I suck and wont do anything as a president, but at least I wont be worse than the orange man!"

@thor

That is true.. the simplicity of it certainly sells

@wildgoose

@thor Not trying to deter you by the way.. just my honest gut reaction

@thor I think youd find more customers in the audio engineering world than casual customers honestly... i mean i still dont understand why you dont just run the music from the same computer as gaming.

@Geoffberner yea plu its so transparent.. he seems to appoint minorities just for the sake of minorities and often, not really good choices compared to other far better candidates (many of which are minorities as well)... almost like he is just trying to show he can get as many minorities as he can and really doesnt care about much else

@thor to be honest, im not sure there are many people who would have a need for it.. and int he case where there is a need, audio combiners do already exist... i think its one of those things you could sell but might not be an easy sell

@thor

I think its more about having really good media.. you need tons of good photos and promotional videos for it to work.

@realcaseyrollins

@thor So the idea here is you can listen to gaming sound effects but then a seperate computer plays music? hy not play music on your main computer? Too much of a pain to switch screens to change tracks?

@thor Sadly accurate... droning on is my specialty :)

@Pat Yea tghe cops you know are always the nice ones... Its only when you challenge them or give them side idea they will use their power to abuse you.

All you have to do is watch any of the tons of 1A or 2A auditors on youtube to see just how unbelievable often they will abuse their power... I myself know the countless times ive personally witnessed cops being abusive...

Your experience does not add up to reality.