🎓 Dr. Freemo 🇳🇱 @freemo@social.cleverlibre.org

@thatguyoverthere @realcaseyrollins

I always found actors kind of cringy when they are talking to someone who isnt there... little things I think most people miss but to me stand out like a sore thumb. Stuff like the length of the pauses and some of the wording seems really unnatural.

Then again i p[ick that up in tv and movies in general, can make a lot of tv hard to watch.

@eberhofer @DeanObeidallah

None of what you said actually lines up witht he data.

1) For starters unemployment rate would have to be plotted as an inverse log plot if we want to fairly evaluate rate. the reason is obvious... if you have 100% unemployment it is much easier to bring that to 99% then it is to go from 1% to 0%... So even if nothing changes in terms of effects on unemployment we would have an asymptotic plot, not a linear one.

So there is no slowing, outside of covid itself, and i see no inflection point suggesting there was a rate change when trump came on.

2) Second once we admit that the huge spike due to covid and shutting down he economy (which everyone agreed on both sides was needed) can not be blamed on Trump (which should be evidence since the same pattern is seen, his downward rate was actually not slowed at all but reached record recovery rates... never in the history of recessions has jobs recovered so quickly as they did under trump. This is obvious fromthe chart, where Trump has the **sharpest** job recovery rate across the whole chart, and in fact, in history. The fact that this happened at the **end** of his presidency further debunks your assertions.

3) The claim Obama is to praise for the long gradual downward sloap in unemployement and Trump just inherited it.... no thats easily debunked too. If we look at the european unemployment rates (or global) which I have attached, the shape of the curve that you attribute to obama is nearly identical tot he curve for europe. This suggests unemployment rates were recovering not due to anything special Obama did but rather due to an improvement in global economy that all countries shared. Contrast this with the recovery period after the covid spike which does in fact vary greatly from country to country and of which Trump, again, had a record recovery rate on unemployment ever seen.

Now again I am not saying we should praise Trump. In fact I think he was horrible and these indicators above are due to actions Trump took that had good economic impact (very fast recovery from unemployment) in the short term, but at the cost of the long term.. the QE he engaged in to make that possible is also what is, partly, causing the high inflation we see now, so its fine to say that **despite** his impressive record on unemployment he did so at a cost that was more harmful than good overall... But even then we would be dishonest not to admit that in isolation the unemployment rates Trump was able to achieve were record breaking in both rate and in how low he managed to get those numbers.

@eberhofer

Huh, what are you suggesting by the longer chart? Are you suggesting trump did not hit the record lowest unemployment since 1969 before Biden was able to match him?

I guess you mean the huge spike the kicked in when the economy was shut down due to covid, which he managed to bring back down at a record rate?

Dont get me wrong overall I think Trump was shit and I do **not** support him as president. But we cant deny the fact that he hit the lowest unemployment rate since 1969 which he continued to keep on a downward trajectory right up until COVID hit (at which point literally no one in any country was able to prevent an unemployment spike)

@DeanObeidallah

@LouisIngenthron Deleted my reply. I wasnt. Thought you were replying to a different thread.

@DeanObeidallah I mean the previous record holder for lowest unemployment rate was set by Trump, and Biden has just now surpassed it by a few fractions of a point. So even if we do talk about the unemployment rate, and how Biden was finally able to achieve Trump's level of success int hat regard, it would still have to invoke Trump to be fair in discussing that. Lets hope Biden can keep the numbers going the way they are.

@48kRAM We are in the process of going public, but we may hire before we do.

Which of the following reasons, in and of itself, would be enough for you to suspend, block or report a person?

#USPol #politics #mastoadmin

@andrewt Oh, what happened?

@48kRAM We have an IT department which is basically data science and ML, though its more statistical based AI than say, neural nets. We also have a chemistry lab, and a clinical side. I am the EVP/CIO so basically in charge of all three departments and some management level stuff. Most importantly I am the one who gets final say on hiring and firing.

We build technicology capable of detecting diseases off breath (though this may include things beyond breath in the near future)... Until now our focus has been on building a product that could identify covid accurately off a breath sample in near-realtime (a minute or two max).

@dcc

Seems they do, yes. Thanks for helping them

@post

@post Best of luck to you finding that new instance.

@mraharrison yup im in the other camp, and commented as expecting

@mraharrison This makes no sense... computer isnt a branch of anything, its just computing.. it uses MANY other fields, but that doesnt make it a branch of that field.

Now if you want to be specific we have: 1) Computer Science 2) Computer Engineering and 3) discrete methematics... each of these are branches of one of the respective fields you mentioned, but oriented towards computing.

@post When your arguments are completely non-sensical, very clearly bioased, andyou are clearly trying to sell a non-science based agenda... no none of thaqt is simply an argument where you fail to convince me.

I have let you stay on this server for a LONG time skirting that line and have never once even threatened a suspend specifically because I do agree, in general, that debate on topics no matter how heated is welcome.

But when it crosses to the point of flat-earth sort of mentality, yea.

When I review your posts I see nothing to suggest you have expertise in the topics you post, or are trying to learn. almost all your posts on any topic are non-sensicval, contradicts elementary things that are well established without justifying it remotely. Even attempts to engage with you to reach a better level of understanding is riddles with fundementally anti-science rhetoric as we just went throguh "HEre is a cochrain review, i picked it because its one of the best most respected publications and agrees with me... oh except the whole conclusion which completely disagrees with me" nonsense... this isnt opinion or arguing, its just clear, blatenet and even intentional bias... even once the publication you citesd as the most respectable one possible explicitly made a comment telling you you were wrong then you blamed them of not being credible.... this sort of discourse is notof a STEM nature or academic at all... its just a flat-earth debate "everything that disagrees with me is a conspiracy!"

Yea this isnt the instance for that, please find another one.

@post

We make it clear right in our about page we are **exclusive** to stem professionals. There is a reason we claim Academic Freedom here and not simply freedom of speech.

@trinsec @khird @vixxo @ech @feld

@post

This right here, anti-vax sentiment that seems to be suggestive of all vaccines, is the line.. This is so blantantly "flat earth" level anti-science that I think it disqualifies you from a presence on a STEM instance. As you've seen we have a **huge** tolerance for discussing topics and criticism even in rather heated topics (like COVID) that would have gotten you suspended much sooner from any other instance. But full on anti9-vax thinking no vaccines work, dont end pandemics, herd immunity is some construct that doesnt exist... no virus has ever been isolated, etc etc.... sorry but this has now crossed the line for us.

I will discuss with the other moderators for a sanity check ( @trinsec @khird
) but I'd suggest you migrate to another server which I think you should have the right to do (and you cant once suspended)... that sort of extreme anti-scientific sentiment has no place on a STEM server.

@vixxo @ech @feld

@post

While it is rare that it will completely eradicate a disease, this is compelte nonsense. smallpox was eradicated through vaccines. We also have plenty of epidemics that have been ended and the disease only exists in small numbers now in vaccinated regions, polio is a good example of that.

You just go farther and farther into crazy town with your comments dude... how long before you start claiming no virus has ever been isolated and the earth is flat too?

@vixxo @ech @feld

Linkedin? Isnt that that social media platform exclusive to spammers? No thanks.

@post @vixxo @ech @feld

Except the vaccines do work, what you mean to say (if your being accurate, which you probably arent) is they dont work as well as the vaccines we are used to, they behave more like flu vaccines do, reducing risk significantly and having that protection fade with time, and without being able to establish a strong herd immunity as easily as with other vaccines (and perhaps not at all).