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@slimtux That is a valid argument for concealing it rather than having it in the open (not sure back vs front makes a huge difference though)...

My holdster locks the gun in place so unless you know how to unlock it you cant just pull it out.

@freepeoplesfreepress

And I am glad you share them. I do not consider you anti-gun. As far as I can tell you want guns but feel the system needs some tweaking by having what you perceive to be some reasonable restrictions that dont exist (but havent expressed what those restrictions are).

I dont have enough information to disagree or agree with you. I know i lean pretty strongly towards fairly lax gun laws, so i tend to disagree with many in that regard, at least to some degree.

@mapto

@freepeoplesfreepress

I was responding to mapto not you (the first person in the list of people tagged is the person being responded to in a thread).

@mapto

@mapto @freepeoplesfreepress

If you cant see how a gun can prevent someone from killing or raping you, or bow hubting can prevent someone from starving then i dont know what to tell ya.

@mapto

Thats the beauty of rights. If you dont like them you dont need to exercise them.

@Flatulenator

@mapto @freepeoplesfreepress oh and to answer your question the following nations are nations which explicitly declare the right to bare rights as a fundemental right:

Czech Republic, Guatemala, Ukraine, Mexico, the Philippines, the United States, Yemen, and Switzerland

@mapto @freepeoplesfreepress

Same reas9n you have whole areas of the world that will put people in jail for being gay.. propaganda, groupthink and brain washing.

When looked at objectively and in good faith (this part is lacking) I thi k any reasonable person woukd ubderstand its not about the right to kill people, its about the right to save lives, larticipate in a sport, hunt, and many other useful purposes.

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Death: What is it

William: Some aimless infatuation which for the moment you feel like indulging. Its missing everything that matters.

Death: Which is what?

William: Trust, responsibility, taking the weight for your choices and feelings and spending the rest of your life living up to them, and above all not hurting the object of your love.

Death: So that's what love is according to William Perish?

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@TruthSandwich

It is a communist/far-life sort of ideology... Id rather refrain from personal attacks against science, but I do agree it lacks a certain understanding of the finer points of economics at least.

@Empiricism_Reloaded

@TruthSandwich

Sadly I know.. ER clearly has this notion, and its quite common, that economies, money, anything of a capitalistic nature is inherently going to produce evil things... Its obviously a very flawed and incorrect take, but one that is sadly common.

@Empiricism_Reloaded

@TruthSandwich @Empiricism_Reloaded

> The one that Freemo would prefer, because he’s a sociopath, is for all of us to suffer and maybe just die. If there are no humans, there’s no human impact. If we at impoverish ourselves, we’ll have less impact. This is the far left’s answer.

I do hope you realize im joking when I say that... i suppose half joking as there is a smidgen of truth to it... but no im not serious when i talk about liking the end of the human race.

@Empiricism_Reloaded

Less fuel is more profitable than more fuel for the same food... so yes industry cares about profits first... which is exactly why your scenario of agriculture that uses less fuel means more profits. Unless its wasteful of other resources that arent fuel, then its less desirable.. which means less resource effiency but also less profit.

This clinging to the idea of money and profit meaning bad is a huge gaping flaw in your logic.. not to say that maximizing profit at the expense of all else is always good, its not... but more often than not it tends to be a good system.

@TruthSandwich

@Empiricism_Reloaded

Sounds **extremely** appealing for people seeking to make profit... fuel costs money, if you can make food with less than industry would jump at the chance. If it restores nature at the same time thats a huge selling point for most people, so would mean even more profits for the increased demand... sounds like a for-profit companies wet dream honestly, not something that would discourage them.

@TruthSandwich

@TruthSandwich

Why not engineer a way to get what you need out of the ecosystem without causing ecological damage... it sounds like an ecological engineering problem to me. Why so hung up on it being one or the other?

@Empiricism_Reloaded

@TruthSandwich

Also depends how far into the future we are talking.. but yes, if we knew how the future was going to look it would already be here :)

@Empiricism_Reloaded

@TruthSandwich

By that point we would have colonized and destroyed the rest of the solar system first :)

@Empiricism_Reloaded

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