🎓 Dr. Freemo 🇳🇱 @freemo@social.cleverlibre.org

@johnabs You are thinking of aluminium oxide or titanium oxide coatings... in this case the color is just always a solid back.

@PJ_Evans @georgetakei

I literally just watched a video of him trying to shake hands with people who werent there then walking around like he doesnt know where he is. There was a good 20 minutes of it... yea he is senile.

Blueing steel is a process of intentionally rusing steel as a treatment designed to prevent the rusting of steel.

The key is if you control the type of rust you can create a hard protective coating as opposed to natural rust which is more brittle.

@miramarvess @georgetakei

Not sure I'm following what your saying?

@gabe

I keep trying to ubderstand you, which is why everytime inkeep asking for clarity...

So he shoukd have done good with his money... he has, he is literally the biggest philantropist in his country and did massive good with it.

@gabe So you are saying he is a bad person because he didnt giveaway his mo ey, somethi g youve also disagreed with.. you are making no sense... if you think he is a bad person for keeping 360 million that was given to him then you are agreeing with my original assertion, that your sole accusation is, he was given mo ey and choose to not give most of it away, ergo your sole accusation reduces to hin being rich (and staying rich)

@gabe first off he did use and continues to use his great wealth for good, dumping a great deal into his fou dation commited to educaring the poor.

So if thats all you meant then you are simply wrong.

@gabe Just checked, the Dawoods are in fact one of the largest philantropists in all of pakistan. They have donated huge swaths of money to form the dawood group who focuses on bringing free education to low income families in the area..

So unsuprisingly your notion was complete nonsense and in fact the exact opposite is true. Your whole argument very clearly relies on the assumption that a person who is rich is by default a bad person.

@gabe So your assertion is 1) he i herited money 2) he didnt make hinself poor or middle class after he i herited that money?

Sounds a hell of a lot like your whoke accusation boils down to "he is rich" afterall.

@gabe Then by all means, please feel free to provide individual examples of things the billionairs in this case did that was immoral.. at least then I might agree with you.

@gabe Your statement was as follows:

> The individual billionaire could have done much good with their wealth; they did not. They could have supported a more just economic system that gave them less unearned wealth and better protected the rights of the weak & poor; they did not (indeed they did the opposite). These choices deserve moral blame, especially since they are now individually in the public eye.

These assumptions are blanket statements about rich people, and based solely on them being rich... You have no idea what good, if any, they did with their wealth in the past (or would continue to do in the future). You have no idea if they fought for a better system that protected the weak or poor, again, you knew nothing about these people and assumed, based solely on them being rich, that they were guilty of the above.

@gabe

You literally went on to give a generic reason why all rich people were bad... it was not fictitious.

It is out of touch when 1) those bad actions are a generalization 2) those bad actions arent reality.

@gabe Except you arent blaming a rich person for their own actions beyond the act of simply being rich... sounds a lot like racism where you blame a person simply for being black and making overarching sterotype assumptions about all black/rich people.

And your last paragraph is just out of touch with the reality of it.. being rich doesnt mean you are unjust.. in fact most rich people donate a much larger portion of their income to charity than middle class people do, so you are assuming simply because they created their wealth and decided not to give away all or most of the very thing they created that they are by default evil.

@mono Italians dont really embrace white sauces... the white stands for the parmigano cheese, duh!

@gabe That doesnt make it right, if anything that just articulates why it is so wrong..

It would be like me saying (wrongly) that im happy some random black person died because im angry at all the times ive been assaulted by blasck people...

The premise is wrong, black/billionairs as a whole arent hurting people (despite there being plenty of notable bad individuals)... and you using that as justification is also wrong.

@admitsWrongIfProven

Yes i like admits and consider him a good guy. We just differ in opinion, hopefully respectfully.

@wiredfire

@admitsWrongIfProven see this is exactly an example of how you dont ubderstand the most basic ideas of money and wealth...

> why extract money from the system if the purpose is to give it to the poor?

You seem to refuse to accept how money/wealth works.. it is **not** a fixed thing that is extracted. It is created/generated as well as moving around. The billionairs arent ciphoni g out your money then giving it back, they are generating new wealth then instead of keepi g it all for themselves they are givi g a portion of it back.

@admitsWrongIfProven if you are lumping all billionairs into the same category then yea you are completely disconnected from the reality.

Some billionairs do bad, some do good, just as many middle clasd do the same. The perportion of evil doers and good doers is about the same regardless of class.

That said rich people do statistically give a much larger portion of their wealth to charities and the poor... so there is that.

And for the record slums existing in front of amaxon warehouses doesnt remotely imply amazon caused those slums to exist, such poorly framed anecdotal evidence is telling of your bias though...