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@shofstader @georgetakei

I mean "a loss of mental faculties due to old age", he appears to struggle to function on many every day tasks.

Keep in mind he has been a family associate for many decades, so I've seen him go from young and relatively sharp mentally to a blabbering idiot as he goes senile.

He used to give a speech that was well spoken, coherent, and all around well delivered, for example... now he cant get through without devolving into giberish and confusion. I also just watched a few days ago another perfect example... a collection of clips of him at speeches or giving speeches where he reaches out to shake the hand of someone who isnt even there, no one in front of him and he is trying to shake the hands with air, usually after a few minutes he just wanders around the stage looking confused.

Yea he isnt just senile, but he is getting worse by the day.

@trinsec @lucifargundam @icedquinn

Just gotta make up your own sign language :]

@bibliolater @trinsec i think there is a setting for that, or just dont follow nonenglish speakers.

@trinsec @lucifargundam @icedquinn

Now i wanna play charades.

@realcaseyrollins You are correct I was refering to the gay pride movement.

What pride is, is a definition. While that may have relevance to identifying when we see pride, and thus attach any metric to it to measure it.. it is still vastly different from dictating what the consequences of price is.

Lets be clear, pride is not needing to hide your LGBTQ status and not being ashamed of it.. it is about loving one's self and that quality along with it, rather than being ashamed.

You can of course take that pride to many levels, both good and bad, no one would argue there isnt a bad level of pride in general, I think we all recognize pride can be a harmful quality in many forms.

@trinsec

Makes sense, I learned something.

@icedquinn

@trinsec @icedquinn

I've never noticed this myself, but how could I? I could count on one hand the number of deaf, blind, and mute people I have met in my 40 years of life, literally... at least in person that I knew about. 2 deaf people in my whole life, and similar numbers of blind.. never met a mute.

That said I'm sure you would know far more than me, so I defer to you on this one. It makes sense re: visibility I suppose.

@realcaseyrollins

Yes but your still talking about what a statement "means" as in, what it means to a person (in this case pride).

I am not talking about what pride means at all, I am talking about what it is, in other words, the measurable tangible results, not just my opinion on what the consequences of it are. I was never claiming what the objective **meaning** of pride was... I did claim what the effects of pride is, big difference in what were talking about still.

@trinsec

I'd certainly have nothing with deaf pride though either.. but since being deaf is so much harder to hide im not sure it has the same dynamic of being "in the closet". Though I am sure there has been no shortage of deaf people being shamed.

@icedquinn

@trinsec

LGBTQ have a long history of being shamed, and being stuck "in the closet" out of shame and fear... the use of the term "pride" is a counter to that, it isnt about being prideful of who you are, it is about having enough pride to not be ashamed of it.

@icedquinn

@icedquinn I think they are mostly proud of surviving a long history of oppression and death and making it out the other side.

@realcaseyrollins Well im not sure its about being padantic... since it wasnt a missed detail.

I think its more the interpretation of what I said, which is different from what I actually said (or at least intended to)...

You thought I was saying X (the image I posted) was everyones point of view. I was saying it is the objective reality but there are many opinions that disagree. These are very different things.

@realcaseyrollins

Yes there is a very vocal, and very incorrect, minority who have that opinion despite the fact that is contrary to the reality, on that we agree.

@realcaseyrollins

No I didnt say "to everyone", thats the part you added (and the relevant part).

I claimed that the statement is objectively true, but that doesnt mean everyone's opinions line up with the objective truth.

@realcaseyrollins I dont recall saying everyone had the same opinion about anything... huh?

@realcaseyrollins

Anyone can have any opinion they want, even objectively wrong opinions.

Ayup...

#LGBT #LGBTQ

@shuttersparks @TruthSandwich

German then ;)

@shuttersparks @TruthSandwich Its a gift ;)