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So i joined a creemasons group on facebook since i am applying to join... some random dude claiming to be from the illuminati asked if i wanted to join... for a fee.

Yes im sure for 100$ a month they are goi g to let me rule the world, lol.

@realcaseyrollins 10 years ago this would have just been absurd... now it is pretty much the defacto standard when it comes to any discourse on the internet.

@TruthSandwich For a man who hates propaganda so much he sees it where it doesnt exist you sure are quick to share it when it agrees with you... funny that.

@TruthSandwich

"Here is a link to a website that very clearly has a biased opinion and a desire to manipulate the data, we call this citing sources"

yea... no, Ill pass on that link thanks.

@TruthSandwich I do t beleive drivers licenses should be required either, but thats another matter.

In pa we have immediate access to guns, i dont see the world falling apart.

Its hardly extreme in my eyes, most first time buys as adults are in a threatening situation. Unless you were raised on guns you usually have an immediate need.

I myself have expiernced this, i was in direct danger of murder and needed a gub immediately. Just letting me die because some people may not need it seems like a stretch.

@TruthSandwich the king of bad takes having an opinion on mine doesnt mean much.. lucky i do t mind talking it out with you...

No licensing and requiring permission to conceal carry is bad in my opinion. It acts as a barrier against someone potentially saving their own life.

I often consider the scenario of a woman who broke uo with an ex and is being stalked or threatened. Ot having immediate access to a gun can easily cost her her life.

Why does america have the right to bear arms but not the right to the arms of other animals?

@cobra @strawd

You are uoset that i said lgbtq rights were more important than gun rights? Or you just didnt get your dose of toxicity and trying to turn nothing i to something?

@Romaq This gets me a lot... like i beleive in their intent, but they make such a dishonest argument to get there i just cant get on board... then when i correct them but say i agree with intent, now im a nazi and sealioning... its such a shitshow out tbere.

It's pretty horrible when you agree with people in principle, but they are are unprincipled liars exaggerating or making up "facts" whole-cloth, and in doing ruining any positive vibes you'd have interacting with them. "Uhm... dudes, you are right, but you DO NOT have to *LIE* about it, do you?"

Man the rhetoric on the fediverse gets soooo tiring... why does everything need to be exagerated beyond all reality... the reality is horrible enough, there is no need!

@freemo To give you an idea of how populist he is:

He went on about how he'd shoot drug smugglers on the border.

He went on about how he'd blockade Mexico with the navy to "stop the flow of drugs".

He went on about abolishing unanimous juries to administer the death penalty.

He wants to expand use of the death penalty outside of murder.

Censorship of books in libraries.

Censorship of views in higher education.

He talks big about all that tough on crime stuff.

Lots of talk about the border and "finishing the wall".

@olives I dont mind a strong border, though its not a priority for me... a lot of that is very concerning i agree.

@strawd I do, and if it is awful that woukd be a deal breaker for me for sure. LGBTQ rights are at least as importsnt, probably more so, to me than gun rights.

Sadly its hard to find supporters of gun rights that have other good principles i support... but i fear the pressure to violate gun rights is getting too strong to not have it be a factor for me.

@olives that could be... ill let ya know once i do some research if my opinions have changed

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