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@gpowerf yea im new to safety razors but I dont think I ever saw a safety razor or blade for sale in all my travels. Rarely see them in the USA either. Got all my stuff online... shame really as its hard to see why we ever moved away from these.

So I bought like 30 different shaving soaps and a lather brush and the whole deal... Anyway the one I picked today had like tobacoo in it, not the smoke but the fresh leaf. As much as I hate the smell of tobacoo smoke this smells soooo good.

Feelin fresh.

@ambihelical

Its a psychological myth because its based on a perceived advantage that isnt an advantage at all, and thus doesnt exist.

If people beleive this myth then they pool their resources to get someone elected that is evil and abuses them, they didnt win anything at all.

When the belief isnt believed in by the people then you have no coalitions and the most moral and best person wins, since people vote for who is best, not who is popular.

@sdgathman @georgetakei @peterdrake

@mandlebro

I generally agree with that. I'd even go one further and say that votes for congress means more than the president as well.

@sdgathman @ambihelical @georgetakei

@peterdrake

RCV allows for third parties support to just become more visible, and can counter-act thepsychology component of the 2-party myth... So it can fix the problem, but is only needed because the myth exists at all.

@sdgathman @ambihelical @georgetakei

A 2-party system is a mathematical consequence of plurality voting. While ranked voting as suggested by @ambihelical is impractical (for both voting equipment and voting comprehension), simply voting for more than 1 is already supported by all voting equipment, readily understood by voters, and already in use for many local races.

It also increases the likelihood that no candidate will gain 270 electoral votes in the case of the Presidential.

For that case, I recommend we follow the constitution and vote for electors, NOT presidential candidates. As it is, you have to work pretty hard to even know the name of the electors you are voting for. They are not put on the ballot. It is well worth meeting them.

@sdgathman

No it isnt a mathematical consequence (im well aware of what you are talking about).. it is a psychological consequence that can be described by math... which makes it a choice not an invevitablity.

There is a reason first-past-the-post voting has resulted in multiple parties in other countries. Hell even int he USA we have had third parties take over as primary party 8 timesin US history... so plenty of evidence it isnt a mathematical inevitablity.

It would be more accurate to say it returns in sharper changes in the dominance of third parties where they take over in a single election cycle.

@ambihelical @georgetakei

@georgetakei

Thats a very short sighted view... the way I see it getting a higher vote count for third parties, gives people hope third parties can win, and can break the 2-party system if that trend is carried out... breaking the two-party system is a FAR more promising goal than it is to have one of two shitty people picked year after year to run this country.

@LouisIngenthron Last time they tried to do that we got LSD.. but it was a noble effort.

@admitsWrongIfProven Not sure how it is related.. I mean its not like me having money as a resource has in anyway solved the issue.

Moreover this issues only really started kicking in post obamacare.. while the american system was still deeply flawed before obamacare at least at that point it was equally flawed with european systems (although in drastically different ways)

@freemo I wanted to say that i'm happy i'm not a us citizen, then i read the thread... and now i want to say it EVEN LOUDER.

Good luck with that mess. Would help, but we have our own mess.

@admitsWrongIfProven Yea it really is a shit hole, and this is just one of the small ways in which it is

@olives Not just pain meds but all controlled substances like ADHD med and anxiety medication too.

I'm bringing this up as I saw someone complaining about it.

Apparently, drugs were over-prescribed and now the U.S. is over-correcting for it by making it harder to get pain meds at all.

As is evident, that isn't working well either (as it creates the opposite problem).

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