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@DryBird227@mastodon.social

Yes, that was your moms nickname back in the day, crayons.

@georgetakei

@DryBird227@mastodon.social

Wow, so you represent the whole world now... and the tragic commedy continues.

Thats my sign to ask you politely to go away now, thank you. Do not engage me again.

@georgetakei

@DryBird227@mastodon.social

> This is actively and aggressively getting more and more funny.

Agreed it is, and more absurd.

> You use a term incorrectly to describe something. I and others correct you.

Your whole argument was who came up with the term.. you did nothing to define the term and show how the terms definition disagreed with the usage. You basically just screamed like a banshee how the right has used the term before and therefore invalid... as you point out its getting comical.

> It's like watching a dog try to murder it's own tail.

No, Comparing you to the level of intelligence of a dog would be an insult to dogs everywhere.

@georgetakei

@DryBird227@mastodon.social

HA, now we even need to have a completely seperate language to indicate if your left or right...

No sorry I dont play those games. If a word has a meaning and that meaning has a use for me, I will use it. The absurdity of this is .. well im amazed i even need to explain this.

@georgetakei

@DryBird227@mastodon.social

Exactly! You are insisting on discussing the etymology of a term when the topic has **nothing to do** with its etymology. Instead of engaging with what I am saying, you are trying to tell me my words mean something other than what I am saying and thus trying to tell me what I am really saying, all the while fabricating narrative from that far removed fromt he topic.

Its like you arguing about climate change and me disagreeing with you by arguing about the etymology of the word change and how hitler once used the word change in a sentence so you must be wrong.

@georgetakei

@Rui_ALF_Chaves

> I don't think her decision was the right one. We are at a critical crossroad with regards to many things, and her actions are a potential dent in the armor.

On that we strongly disagree.

> Also, I'm not confused about cancel culture.

> Therefore what we have is not a culture of cancelation. That's always been around.

I mean clearly you still are since you said you werent confused, then went on to perfectly agree with me... You said "thats always been around"... ok so you just said Cancel Culture has always been around, thats literally you admitting that Cancel Culture is a thing, you just dont think its a new thing.

@georgetakei

@DryBird227@mastodon.social

What does any of this have to do with what is being discussed? You are arguing against your imagination, none of what you are arguing against was even discussed in this thread...

@georgetakei

@DryBird227@mastodon.social @georgetakei

> Again. They let her go because it was bad for business

Yea, sure.. I have no doubt they did this because they thought it would be in their best interests as an org. They did it for popularity, not any sense of morality, agreed.

> (something that doesn't get called cancel culture until it LOOKS like the left did it).

I mean, as myself being on the left, and the fact that I said nothing about left, right, or even politics, this seems nonsensical. It sounds more like your reading from a talking points script than engaging the topic as it is actually presented here.

> Republicans/conservatives constantly cancel people for say...not supporting trump...all the time.

They sure do... you realize you arent disagreeing with me. This point just further proves (with yet another example) that we live in a Cancel Culture.

> But yeah. Crossing picket lines to any degree. Even if it's perceived that way. Is a no no. Even in business.

Yea even when crossing picket lines is morally ok, generally its avoided from a business standpoint.

@DryBird227@mastodon.social

As I already explained in this thread. You clearly dont understand the meaning of "Cancel Culture". It isnt refering to a culture where boycotts happen from time to time. The name implies a culture where boycotting things is a central and dominant theme in the culture.

> Like there's no....this was the left doing it...to this. Ironically enough. The right literally started cancel culture from the start of america to begin with.

Who said anything about left, right, or who started Cancel Culture. Seems like your arguing against something you imagined I said that I never said (or came close to saying)...

> With the church leading the charge and still doing so now. lol

Sure Cancel Culture is pretty common in church circles too, especially historically... how int he world is that relevant to what i posted though?

@georgetakei

@cobratbq @sdgathman @matthewjones @oedp_ruhrmitte

I said a lot of things. We would have to go one by one through things if you wanted to know when and how i learned a particular fact out of those stated. Which one in particularly are you curious about?

Most of it has come from university text books, some is occupational knowledge I maybe have learned in the field indirectly as well since I work a lot in the organic chem world and biology worlds.

@Rui_ALF_Chaves

> The show has her name on it, so she's ultimately responsible.

I never said she wasnt responsible for the decision. I said that her decision was the correct one and thus she did no wrong doing.

> Besides, 'Cancel Culture' has been around for thousands of years (ostracism), and will quite likely be around for many more.

You seem to be confused what Cancel Culture means. It isnt just the act of boycotting, we have always done that and its fine. Its a Culture where boycotting is central to that culture, which is a recent development.

@georgetakei

@cobratbq

Sorry that was meant as a reply so i deleted it. If you want to re-ask this on the new post feel free and ill respond:

qoto.org/@freemo/1110658982726

@sdgathman

> Ackshually, you do get B12 in vegetables *IF* they are grown in healthy soil with active bacteria (or yeast) that make it. This is not the case for most stuff you can buy in the store.

False. While yeast does provide B-vitamins it does not provide any B-12. The exception to this are genetically modified yeast, or yeast that has been modified and B-12 artificially added to it.

> Ironically, CAFO (Concentrated Animal Feeding Operation) animals also get no B12 from their GMO feed - it has to be added artificially. So if B12 is all you are worried about, just take a pill, or add nutritional yeast to a smoothie or cocoa.

Half true... Yes cows who eat from feed do indeed usually get B12 supplements to be extra healthy. However a few important points to that end:

1) Cows and other animals dont need B12 like humans do. Humans evolved to have a particular issue with B12 production (the area of our intestine where it is produced has evolved to no longer be able to absorb B12). As such while cows make their own B12 and are probably going to be ok without a supplement humans on the other hand need it far more than cows.

2) Grass fed cows dont get supplements at all because the yeast in the dirt provides them with ample B12 on its own anyway.

So I'd say the argument here is to make sure you just eat good healthy meat and not meat raised in poor conditions is all.. by the way you should do the same when picking veggies.

> The real reason to eat meat - real grass fed and grass finished non CAFO meat - is to move carbon back to the soil. Chemical fertilizers replace nitrogen, but not carbon, and yards of carbon rich top soil has been reduced to inches over the last century.

This doesnt quite add up for me, but id need you to explain a bit more to have an opinion. Cows consume carbon from their food which they use to form their body.. if they die and get buried that carbon is returned. If we eat them and shit them out that carbon is returned. But if the cow is never born (because no one will eat it) then it never consumed the carbon from the ground int he first place and thus there is nothing to "return"... So how is eating meat doing more good at returning carbon to the soil than not eating meat? seems they are the same to me.

> Grazing animals stimulate plant growth, trample carbon into the soil, and fertilize. If you really think CO2 is a problem (I don't), switch to grass fed animals of your choice as much as you can afford. (It is more expensive.)

None of this adds up logically for me... all carbon winds up back in the soil eventually when we talk about food regardless. I do agree that grass fed is a better choice, just for different reasons.

@matthewjones @oedp_ruhrmitte @lonelyowl

@lowqualityfacts I know this is a joke, but it actually is technically true.

Ticks often have lymes disease. If you catch this and it goes untreated it can present with all sorts of neurological symptoms. The symptoms can even look like tourettes in one case I saw.

Point is, it can lead to twitchy eye brows and all sorts of other twitches :)

@georgetakei

I thinkt he book awards can do whatever they like, and are within their rights. But it was the wrong decision. As far as I know Drew didnt hire any non-union writers, nor as she personally violated any of their asks... She is perfectly ok.

The bigger issue is the cancel culture, I know I will not give any attention to the book awards (As is my right) due to this decision.

@SpaceLifeForm

> Weiss is not wise.

Considering "Weiss" is the word for white, and as far as I know she is that, it seems the name is fitting after all :)

@georgetakei

@LouisIngenthron

Pl now you've just moved into intellectual dishonest debate (though perhaps not intentionally). At a minimum its moving the goal post.

So few points:

1) We are talking about the classification of a coin as a security, NOT if the coin engaged in fraud or not. While you would be perfectly legitimate to talk about fraud and why the SEC may be ok in persuing UST, that is also a conversation for another time. The fact is it was listed as a security, despite in no way being an investment vehicle.

2) The criteria for something to be considered a security has nothing to do with if the price has, at some point, fluctuated. As we covered it is about if the token is viewed as a vehicle to investment. The fact that its price has fluctuated slightly at the time of its classification is irrelevant since it is specifically built NOT to be an investable asset.

3) The classification of UST as a security happened **before** anything you mentioned, before its crash in price, before the fraud was revealed, etc. So all of this is a moot point no matter how you slice it.

4) The price of UST remained stable right up until the SEC decided to make it a security.. in other words it only became a coin where price fluctuated significantly AFTER classifying it a security, not before.

5) The idea that they commited fraud is debatable. The accusation has been made, but no conclusions in that regard has been made (the rulings havent been made as to if they are actually guilty or not)... so this is moot.

6) The connection to other currencies is valid, but doesnt make the UST itself all of a sudden an investment vehical just because there is a separate currency that IS an investment vehicle that somehow relates to it. The fact remains UST was never and never will be something people buy and sell with the expectation of it being an investment. So clearly your original statement that only coins sold with the claim of profit are securities is clearly false.

@LouisIngenthron

Pl now you've just moved into intellectual dishonest debate (though perhaps not intentionally). At a minimum its moving the goal post.

So few points:

1) We are talking about the classification of a coin as a security, NOT if the coin engaged in fraud or not. While you would be perfectly legitimate to talk about fraud and why the SEC may be ok in persuing UST, that is also a conversation for another time. The fact is it was listed as a security, despite in no way being an investment vehicle.

2) The criteria for something to be considered a security has nothing to do with if the price has, at some point, fluctuated. As we covered it is about if the token is viewed as a vehicle to investment. The fact that its price has fluctuated slightly at the time of its classification is irrelevant since it is specifically built NOT to be an investable asset.

3) The classification of UST as a security happened **before** anything you mentioned, before its crash in price, before the fraud was revealed, etc. So all of this is a moot point no matter how you slice it.

4) The price of UST remained stable right up until the SEC decided to make it a security.. in other words it only became a coin where price fluctuated significantly AFTER classifying it a security, not before.

5) The idea that they commited fraud is debatable. The accusation has been made, but no conclusions in that regard has been made (the rulings havent been made as to if they are actually guilty or not)... so this is moot.

6) The connection to other currencies is valid, but doesnt make the UST itself all of a sudden an investment vehical just because there is a separate currency that IS an investment vehicle that somehow relates to it. The fact remains UST was never and never will be something people buy and sell with the expectation of it being an investment. So clearly your original statement that only coins sold with the claim of profit are securities is clearly false.

@oedp_ruhrmitte @lonelyowl @matthewjones

This comment seems to be of the mistaken assumption that vegetables are inherently healthier than meat. That isnt true.

For example even with the variety of foods you just listed, due to the lack of meat you'd not be getting the B-12 you need.

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