🎓 Dr. Freemo 🇳🇱 @freemo@social.cleverlibre.org

@lxo Oh your talking about the total number of people in the world infected... In that case the number at the begining of the pandemic was 1... so at that point its just nonsensical a statement to make at all. So still not really a honest statement to make in any useful way.

That said the issue here is not if you can somehow twist what he said into something that can be technically true or not... its the fact that it is a harmful statment, misleading at best, flat out wrong at worst. And instead of making any attempt to actually discuss it they went straight to personal attacks...

It is their behavior and response to the criticism, very valud criticism, without any care for the facts, that leads me to have issue with this. Someone simply being mistaken or presenting misleading information unintentionally in and of itself isnt the issue.

@e3aefda887252a72cee3578d33b2dcd90e9fe53b8bed6347ef5e26f74211adbb

Just checked... on 15m we got abotu s2.5 noise (thats no preamp or attenuator on). Meanwhile on 40 meters with no attenuation or pre-amp on im seeing s4 noise.

this is no filters or anything. I am in the middle of the city with an antenna on my roof... so noise isnt that surprising.

Made my first contact on my new antenna... 15m band, 1400 miles (PA to Texas).

Cant wait until this evening to see how well it does on 80 meter!

#Ham #HamRadio #AmateurRadio #Radio #RF #ee

@TruthSandwich

So if it isnt contant than we are back where we started.. a low-level of bigotry can evolve into a high-level of bigotry, and ultimately cause people to switch which side of the fence they are on, due to their expiernces and how they respond to them.

@admitsWrongIfProven

@lxo

The rates were even higher on day one since no immunity had formed in anyone yet... so even then they would be factually wrong.

@lxo

I'd be happy to hear if the other party had some facts to back up their claims of course or if they meant something obscure...

but infections per day is what i was talking about with th enumbers I stated, though my statements would also be true if we talk about "total number of people infected at any one moment" and even infections per exposure... none of these even approach pre-mandate levels.

I am a COVID research scientist and am intimately familiar with the numbers around COVID and there is **nothing** about the current numbers to suggests they are at or near pre-mandate levels... not infection rate, nor infection count, nor any other metric... As a scientist I am happy to hear someone is making a fact based argument, but there is no indication of that being the case here.

Worse yet when called out for being wrong I saw no effort on their part to either correct themselves or clarify.

@TruthSandwich

Sure, but I didnt ask about anything before nixon.. im asking about now, and people who, at this moment, happen to be changing parties, which you claim is a demonstration of a bigot yet also claim bigotry would have to be a constant.

@admitsWrongIfProven

@TruthSandwich

Ok but the more important question. So all these racist or sexist bigots that were part of the DNC who then at some point move to the GOP... What caused them to pick the DNC over the GOP to begin with and more importantly what would cause them to switch teams? I mean they were always biggoted, but according to you choose the less bigoted side and then switch to the more bigoted side... but you claim bigotry itself is a constant, so they didnt do it because they became more bigoted.... so why switch?

@admitsWrongIfProven

@JoBlakely

Well your doing an horrendous job then if you think harassing other minorities who ask respectful questions is you being an ally for black people is helping your cause in the slightest... the only thing your doing is pushing people to the other side of the fence by harassing well meaning and sincere questions where someone is trying to understand someone elses perspective.

If you really think going around calling people names because they ask someone respectfully to explain something about racism in an attempt at personal growth... I dunno what to tell you but "ally" is the last thing you are.

@admitsWrongIfProven

Here ya go, a stack of wisdom tokens, now you can purchase safe advice from the holy sandwich :)

@TruthSandwich

@admitsWrongIfProven

That is **not** what I said...

You claimed bigots are always bigots, they jsut change which group they target

So im asking all the people who switch from the DNC to the GOP... when they were int he DNC which group were they bigots towards, and by switching to the GOP what is the new group?

@TruthSandwich

@saxis Not always... some do.. plenty of immature people who are easily influenced on the left too... tons of them.

@saxis Even some adults are sometimes easily influenced too... but adults tend to be more stubborn so it doesnt happen quite as easily.

@moffintosh

The people I helped out of poverty have been spread out over a 20 year period... different people whom i gave free room and board to under the condition that they followed a set of rules intended for them to be financially independent and stable and put them in a position to move out.

Over the course of those 2 decades I have taken in maybe about a dozen people under those conditions... spread out at different times over that period.

@thor

@TruthSandwich

Ok so when an adult goes from being a supporter of the DNC to being a supporter of the GOP... what group were they a bigot to under the DNC? And what potential cause is there to decide to stop being a biggot against the group they attacked as part of the DNC and now be a biggot to this new group the GOP attacked?

@admitsWrongIfProven

@thor

Neither myself nor any of these people were rich people who happened to become broke... Myself I grew up on welfare from the day I was born. I had a single-parent who was a hairdresser.

The people I helped out of poverty, every single one of them came from poverty on some level. Most lived in section 8 housing with their parents

No one, including me, had any connections fromt he start. You could argue I was the connection, and thats fine, like I said I wont argue against the idea that sometimes people need help... But again since my help as a "connection" is open to everyone, well here we are, that eliminates that road block :)

@moffintosh

@TruthSandwich

So how exactly does a non-bigot become a bigot? We all know it happens because we know for a fact some people (however many that may be) have at some point later in life changed their position... So what, exactly, causes a bigot to become a bigot then if it isnt related to expiernce?

@admitsWrongIfProven

@thor

I dont think I've quantified the exact level of my success other than to point out i am out of poverty and "successful" in some way... but sure...

What about my avatar do you feel contradicts the fact that I am financially stable and secure? Do financially stable people not post goofy pictures or something?

@JoBlakely

Yes that is a true statement... completely useless at answering my question, but true...

Its a bit like answering "what is 1 + 1" with "It is one added to one"... like yea, it might be true, but you literally said nothing to address the ask.

Aldso great way to defelect from your harassment of marginalized minorities which you have only doubled down on in this conversation in a desperate bid to justify it.