🎓 Dr. Freemo 🇳🇱 @freemo@social.cleverlibre.org

@TruthSandwich

what you just said "yes jeff, thank you for simplifying that for me" :)

You're welcome.

@wardrup well if your running off a properly maintained DB with backups and all that shouldnt be an issue, and it should rarely if ever corrupt I would think...

But yea one reason using a service that can download from LoTW is largely because i want to feel my logs are secure even if i loose everything .

@TruthSandwich

Why not reduce it to what they really mean "Everyone who disagrees with me is the same and wrong, my idea is the only unique one and im brilliant cause i finally solved the worlds problems but no one will listen to me because they refuse to accept the earth is flat!"

@Raccoon ahh yea, i mean, someone is likely paying ... but yea its also probably remarkably cheap despite the firepower.

@wardrup

This right now is actually my top choice... I wanted TLF as i wanted a CLI tool... but as far as I can tell TLF cant **download** from any service only upload... so im likely to to go with cloud log.

I bought a 1 month subscription to test it and see if I like it enough to commit... if I do I will likely put in the effort to dockerize it and host it.

@Raccoon Very possibly very little... bot nets tend to be trojened computers... someone released a virus once and are using zombie computers... the virus spreads so costs no money to maintain.

Only way it costs money is if someone is paying to "rent" it, which is likely the case... but even then considering its illegal bandwidth with no material costs it is likely a lot cheaper than you think.

@realcaseyrollins

Wouldnt be the first time :)

@Baley

Plot twist: the other 50% of the day is you putting objects up their other holes :)

In all seriousness though nurses and to a lesser extent doctors (depends on the doctor) are the real heroes!

@ndz been trying that,, seems a bit clunky and not really a huge fan.. feels lacking and just archaic UI... Right now im considering CloudLog and/or tlf maybe.

@realcaseyrollins Think a space elevator would be bad for society or something? Or is there a joke int here that went over my head?

What do you hardcore #linux users use for #Ham radio logging?

#HamRadio

While I have no doubt it would require an unreasonable amount of material and resources, so not doable... I wonder.... would a space-elevator made out of modern materials, but shapped like a pyramid with a broad base, be able to be made tall enough to extend into space. I figure if the base is wide enough and the materials at least as strong as solid rock, it should be possible... but without running the numbers I dunno... I do know there is a limit on the maximum size of a mountain so .... i dunno.

Internet has no answers.

@mzan

> sites.nationalacademies.org/cs/groups/dbassesite/documents/webpage/dbasse_083892.pdf also
>
> USA had a massive spike in homicides rates. More than Canada. And the USA not banned guns.

uhhh what are you even arguing for here?

That would be like this conversation:

Scientist: "We see the death rate in every country increases once COVID-19 is introduced intot he country. Therefore we can conclude COVID-19 will increase the mortality rate of the country"

You: "But look, this one time in solenea we see the death rate increased and there were no COVID cases in the whole country... this makes your argument very suspicious, maybe COVID doesnt kill people"

The logic makes no sense... the fact that a pattern is born out and consistent is not invalidated simply because things other than guns can and have influenced these rates in the past... thats the very reason we look at multiple examples (and why i looked at every country in europe and around the world not just one)... its also why we use cause-effect tests and not correlation, to ensure we are limiting our scope to events related to guns and not other potential unrelated causes.

> Maybe you are correct, but I had to study a lot of stats, before being sure.

As well you should... But at least for the moment given the facts that have been presented in this thread, I think its clear my point is the one that is reasoned and fact based... that may change if you have new evidence, but clearly this evidence points to only one conclusion an objective person could make based on what we have said so far and argued.

@VoxDei @ihavenopeopleskills

@mzan

> I have no access to the other statistics about the rise of homicides in case of ban of the guns. So if you have some link, I will read.

Thats why i provided the data for you to see as a chart. The source is clearly listed for the data, you are welcome to go to the source and check it if you'd like.

@VoxDei @ihavenopeopleskills

@mzan

While we are at it,a nd just to show im not cherry picking... lets address the OP with regard to canada, two topics you both picked so I cant be the one cherry picking here...

So canada a long time ago banned a lot of types of guns, but you can still in some cases get a license if you have a strong need. So handguns still had some use as self defense among a privilaged class.... But they never required training to get a license... Training to obtain a firearm license was enacted by Canada and passed into law in 2014 as an additional restriction on getting a license and a gun. This of course limited access to guns or at least put a barrier in front of it reducing the number of guns on the street...

So what did this relatively minor restriction due to the violent crime rates... well yet again, a restriction on access to guns caused a **skyrocketing** of crime rates. See the chart attached.

As is clear despite violent crimes being well on the decline the day the training requirement law passed we see a huge and continued upward spike in violent crime rates. On that appears to be continuing to climb....

Seems even your example of Canada shows quite clearly banning guns kills people.

#2A

@VoxDei @ihavenopeopleskills