🎓 Dr. Freemo 🇳🇱 @freemo@social.cleverlibre.org

@cjd

I mean sure... he raped a few people, mocked a disabled person for being disabled, specifically denied work to people for being black... but you know, he didnt murder **everyone** he met, and some people do, so calling him evil would be devaluing the word evil....

::hard eye roll::

@thatguyoverthere @georgetakei

@cjd

> You are devaluing the meaning of the word Evil.

Why do people who always argue for Trump struggle so much with the idea that concepts exist on a scale, not simply are or arent.

Sayng there are greater evils that can exist is a piss poor (and childish) argument to try to make the case that something isnt evil.

@thatguyoverthere @georgetakei

@mike805

Age isnt a huge issue, but Biden's senility is certainly an issue... Trump im not so worried about his age as I am his stupidity.

@thatguyoverthere @cjd @georgetakei

@voidabyss

> But Human considering others as subhuman or even another race, this is white European Elite Ideology.

Not really, racial superiority is a concept that is as old as time.

> Bullshit, how much many of "white slave" descendant live in North Africa right now? Compare that of black slaves descendant that live in US or European colonies.

What? You say its bullshit and then argue against something no one said... We said northern africa enslaved whites and we had to go to war to get them to stop... this is true... what does that have to do with the number that survived or live there today? I mean I made no assertions about that so no matter what the answer, how does that relate to if what I said was bullshit or not?

> They were act of ship piracy, yes! The European were the ones taking north African for slaves thought out history from the Roman Empire to recent European colonization of North Africa.

I mean the ship piracy certainly was a source of the slavery industry in norther africa... but white slaves were very much documented and a historical fact fromt he period.

> The slave trade has been forced to many African nations back then as they are now force to sell their natural resources for cheap.

Forced is a matter of opinion... These were wholly native blacks operating it locally, capturing, enslaving and selling other blacks. Obviously whites did come and buy those blacks, and that money is what encouraged the trade. But when those whites set off and sailed again those black people that remained, free black people, kept the business going until the next ship arrived.

> Classic history whitewash to justify the massive industrial scale of the European international slave trade.

I mean if you want to call actual historic facts white washing... go ahead... everything I said was true.

I notice again you talk about scale, and thats valid, at no point did I suggest the less populace nations with fewer resources were able to scale at anywhere near white nations... probably not... but also largely irrelevant. Per capita it was more or less the same, whites arent guilty just for being more industrial or there being more of them.

@threalist @mike805

@matrix I drink it then go around peeing on people.

@thatguyoverthere

Can you indicate any president that you know of that publicly mocked a cripple and/or explicitly told someone not to hire blacks?

If you know of anyone who wouldnt meet these criteria you think I would have supported I'm all ears.. cant think of one.

In fact I am extremely opposed to Biden for quite similar reasons, perhaps even less damning as far as prejudice goes.

@cjd @georgetakei

I just rage quit #Firefox / #LibreWolf ... I gave it a good try, solid week... its unusable for me... back to #chrome

@thatguyoverthere

I call him evil for the things he has done. If he does it publicly that just speaks the fact that he is OK with doing those evil things and doesnt feel being evil is something you should be ashamed of... so it may be marginally worse he doesnt hide it, but otherwise that has little effect on it.

@cjd @georgetakei

@thatguyoverthere

Its all a sliding scale... I dont think ive ever seen anyone run for president who visually mocked a disable person for being disabled.

The only person i can think of who has done anything remotely as racist as trump with public proof is biden...

Dontget me wrong most presidents have been evil too, but these are a unique sort of immorality that is not common in presidents... it also is a very small fraction of things they have done.

@cjd @georgetakei

@skylar@wolfgirl.bar

Who do you feel has different reasoning for their take than you? Me? Or Mr. Takei?

@thatguyoverthere @georgetakei

@caekislove

well lets all just be thankful Hillary lost.. She wouldnt have helped any thats for sure.

@jeff @cjd @thatguyoverthere @georgetakei

@cjd

Yes I know what you were saying...

> And yet your conception of EVIL is a guy standing on a podium making fun of a crippled journalist.

So other things existing int he world is evil makes mocking a crippled person not evil?

Sorry but with logic like that you dont get to say what is childish.

@thatguyoverthere @georgetakei

@voidabyss

Half true... it isnt "white European elite"... its literally every society, including minorities themselves.

The northern africans enslaved white people... we had to go to war to stop them from enslaving whites....

Central africans enslaved their own people for sale to salve traders, so they had a hand in their own slavery, and sometimes even owned their own slaves within tribes.

Native americans would enslave other native americans.

There is no shortage of examples of every race, any race, enslaving almost any other... this includes white people on both sides of slavery throughout history.

@threalist @mike805

@thatguyoverthere

> explicityly trying to deny people access to his businesses for the color of their skin
>
> :doubt:

I mean the evidence was all presented in court including his housing manager and those who applies who were directly and in no uncertain terms told blacks were not allowed... this was in the 60s and 70s, but still clear racism direct from Trump

> you talking about the meme where he mocked Hillary or something making a funny face?

No I am talking about when he stood on stage and made fun of a reporter, whom he named explicitly, who was physically disabled and he mocked their disability by making faces to imitate him.

Attached is the screen shot of him mocking him and a photo of the reporter.

inb4 you think the photo is out of context watch the video it is clear and intentional he was mocking his disability

> Everybody lies or has lied.

Other people doing wrong things has no relevance and changes nothing about if Trump does wrong things... this means nothing. Presidents shouldnt lie most of the time,a nd when they lie for no reason and nearly constantly, then they should be treated as such.

@cjd @georgetakei

@mike805

Yea it remains an unsolved problem it seems.

@threalist

@LouisIngenthron and the second part is effectivly impossible with fountain pens the way I write... flex pens require a strong hand to form the line variations.

@mike805

Because they fought a different angle.. they wanted state rights to sort it out for themselves. Because no group could get a majority acceptance on any issue.. so everything else was a standstill.

@threalist