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Jeffrey Phillips Freeman
Innovator & Entrepreneur in Machine Learning, Evolutionary Computing & Big Data. Avid SCUBA diver, Open-source developer, HAM radio operator, astrophotographer, and anything nerdy.
Born and raised in Philadelphia, PA, USA, currently living in Utrecht, Netherlands, USA, and Thailand. Was also living in Israel, but left.
Pronouns: Sir / Mister
(Above pronouns are not intended to mock, i will respect any persons pronouns and only wish pronouns to show respect be used with me as well. These are called neopronouns, see an example of the word "frog" used as a neopronoun here: http://tinyurl.com/44hhej89 )
A proud member of the Penobscot Native American tribe, as well as a Mayflower passenger descendant. I sometimes post about my genealogical history.
My stance on various issues:
Education: Free to PhD, tax paid
Abortion: Protected, tax paid, limited time-frame
Welfare: Yes, no one should starve
UBI: No, use welfare
Racism: is real
Guns: Shall not be infringed
LGBT+/minorities: Support
Pronouns: Will respect
Trump: Moron, evil
Biden: Senile, racist
Police: ACAB
Drugs: Fully legal, no prescriptions needed
GPG/PGP Fingerprint: 8B23 64CD 2403 6DCB 7531 01D0 052D DA8E 0506 CBCE
Joined Jul 2018
> So including the palestinians in the israeli economy might be a good first step towards getting them away from the hamas nonsense.
To put it another way, by the jews killing them, and herding them into small ghettos with little or no resources, they have created extreme poverty and over time caused the growth of Hamas directly by their own actions.
When you abuse civilians and punishment for a minority of militants the end result has **always** been radicalization.
> I doubt the relevance of the "small fraction" you mention, as long as they are identified as jewish people, people that wish them harm will not relent on some genetics argument (or similar).
People wanting harm on them doesnt really have any relevance to them steealing someones home and commiting mass genocide. While I understand the need well there are plenty of groups that would love a home thqat doesnt have one all to themselves from pagans on up
> I am assuming we are in agreement that securing human rights for all humans is the most important goal, so i ask: if there are perceived characteristics that make people think other people are of a group, would that not be more relevant than actual match with the group? After all, no attacker will look at this scientifically.
More relevant to what? If they can steal land that has no relationship to them at all (since we established they are a different ethnic group)? No of course not. Them being abused as a group has relevance for us to want to protect them from that harm.
So why dont you give them part of germany, after all germany was the source of most of the harm they expiernced this century, sounds like if you think they deserve land of their own you should be giving them German land to protect them no? That way you arent using Nazi tactics on one group (palestinians) to benefit another, contradicting your purpose int he process.
> Other aspect would be: if "indigenous" status goes away after being expelled from a region, would we not enable attackers? Keep them away long enough, they loose their rights?
Indigienous status doesnt go away when you are expelled from a region. It goes away when you are no longer those people. A jew by religion only, with little or no jewish lineage is a religious jew. That would be like me calling myself african because somewhere 2000 years ago in my family tree there was a african ancestor once.
Right, I care that these are people whith generational ries right up to the modern day going back thousands of years.. The jews are int he wrong for starting that but as I said their there now and I would recognize anyone **born** on the land (or any land) as a citizen of that land.
@lonelyowl That wasnt the argument made.. it was the argument you tried to claim i was making that I rejected.
I didnt claim the argument was historic, or whoever is there first wins.. I suggested the people who have been there **in recent history**, born ont he land and having been generationally born ont he land for some 2000 years win. Its not because they were there first, its because they were there now, during this generation, and being evaded by people who werent there now, and during this, or any recent generation.
@lonelyowl I am not suggesting either group be deported... its too late for that. but clearly the group whose land was stolen should have it given back. That can resemble a simple single state singel vote for everyone.
@admitsWrongIfProven yes, ancesteral jews were indeed native.. modern jews however have been disoplaced for 2000 years and integrated into other cultures.. so while culturally they preserved soem jewish heritage they are not jewish in the same sense anymore. This is clear for anyone who has met a modern jew, very few if any even retain middleeastern characteristics. they are such a small fraction jewish at this point its irrelevant.
@admitsWrongIfProven YEs people migrated like crazy. Thats sorta the problem with jews... they once had the land but have migrated away and intermixed with populations over thousands of years. so the people who carry ont he heritage of the jews arent really a distinct race anymore, not to mention many dont even have lineage back to the region. So while some jews may also have some native heritage they are so far removed over such a long period of time it no longer has any relevance in modern day. Unlike palestinians who have remained in the area consistantly both from anctient times and in modern times.
> This is bad argument anyway, it explains nothing and mainly used for demogoguery.
It explains quite a bit, the most important bit... that they have lived ont he land many generations. It literally explains that.
Now if you want to use it for demogoguery thats on you. But the fact is most people recognize that someone who has generationally owned and lived on a land has a right to be a citizen of that land.
> I assume we do care about "native" people in other countries not because a fact they're "native" somehow make them more valuable, but because we do care about people in general 🤷♀️
When you are displacing people off their land who has been there many generations absolutely has relevance. The reason we give special powers to native shere isnt "because we care about people" its specifically because their native and yes they get special privilages for having their land stolen from under them.
@admitsWrongIfProven I cant imagine anyone would dispute it... I have never heard anyone, even a jew, claim the arabs of the region arent native there.
@johnzajac As someone who has had confirmed COVID infections 7 times I am happy I have yet to have anything more than fairly mild symptoms.
@admitsWrongIfProven The IDF is certainly an occupational force. But they arent aligned to britain, even if britain started it.
@lonelyowl That would be less accurate than the argument I made... More like, these are the people who have been living there fore generations that go back to before there are any records of individual land ownership, in some cases dozens of generations recorded, and many more lost to time.
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I am just going to start referring to Palestinians by the more accurate term "natives".
as long asyou take it with a whole heap of salt I have no problem with that :)
The package is standardized, the device in side is unique. Usuallyt eh internal device dictates the pin # association and isnt something a manufacturer can choose since the same die needs to be inserted in many packages, and tools for cross-wiring and other things have tons of problems (not the least of which being that its expensive.
You will find that while these pinouts are referred to as the japanese, american, and european "standards" they arent. In fact even when standards are attempted they disagree with this (for example its common for NPN adn PNP to have reverse pinouts).
Not sure I follow... are you saying that parents who are humane to their kids (dont beat them) are bewildered because beating children is so acceptable?
@Rasp I dont think they are every going to hold off AI... but getting royalty for AI's trained on their voice might be a fight they can win.
While I certainly agree with ChatGPT here we should refrain from using it as a scholarly source as it has a horrific tendency to get a lot of details wrong too.
- UFoI Member
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- Website
- http://JeffreyFreeman.me
- Gitlab
- https://git.qoto.org/freemo
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Jeffrey Phillips Freeman
Innovator & Entrepreneur in Machine Learning, Evolutionary Computing & Big Data. Avid SCUBA diver, Open-source developer, HAM radio operator, astrophotographer, and anything nerdy.
Born and raised in Philadelphia, PA, USA, currently living in Utrecht, Netherlands, USA, and Thailand. Was also living in Israel, but left.
Pronouns: Sir / Mister
(Above pronouns are not intended to mock, i will respect any persons pronouns and only wish pronouns to show respect be used with me as well. These are called neopronouns, see an example of the word "frog" used as a neopronoun here: http://tinyurl.com/44hhej89 )
A proud member of the Penobscot Native American tribe, as well as a Mayflower passenger descendant. I sometimes post about my genealogical history.
My stance on various issues:
Education: Free to PhD, tax paid
Abortion: Protected, tax paid, limited time-frame
Welfare: Yes, no one should starve
UBI: No, use welfare
Racism: is real
Guns: Shall not be infringed
LGBT+/minorities: Support
Pronouns: Will respect
Trump: Moron, evil
Biden: Senile, racist
Police: ACAB
Drugs: Fully legal, no prescriptions needed
GPG/PGP Fingerprint: 8B23 64CD 2403 6DCB 7531 01D0 052D DA8E 0506 CBCE
Joined Jul 2018
