🎓 Dr. Freemo 🇳🇱 @freemo@social.cleverlibre.org

@mia

It is the tour de' france

@realcaseyrollins

@jbschirtzinger Just another weekend for me, send them my way :)

@realcaseyrollins to be doubly clear personhood and "life" were both concepts I in no way addressed or even see as relevant. What matters is self-determination, consciousness and though. of which you need a brain to have any of those.

@jbschirtzinger The "soul" can get as upset as it wants, it can hitch a ride on the next meat puppet if it wants.

@realcaseyrollins who said anything about "where life begins"... a barnacle has no brain and is clearly alive... I see nothing wrong with killing it.

Plants, barnacles, and all sorts of things are alive but we recognize killing them isnt an issue since they have no brain to have sense of identity, thought, desires, nothing... Its no different than removing a tumor which also has no brain or thought.

@jbschirtzinger

How could a lump of cells with no brain or nurons in any way disagree with me? It has no thought on any level with which to disagree... which is the point.

It has nothing to do with what constitutes "alive".. its not intending to be a metaphysical or philosophical discussion. Its about suffering and a sense of self. If you have no conscious, no thought, no means of expierncing suffering. It has no more consciousness than a barnacle.

@jbschirtzinger Thats exactly why a 10 week period was picked, since the fetus has no neurons yet it doesnt have rights. Once there are neurons forming (which happens around that time period) it has all the protections and rights... thats the point.

@realcaseyrollins It is the only solution Ic an think of that addresses both sides of the concern on abortion.... It addresses a womans right to choice, as well as ensuring the fetus has protections on its life that are science based (protected once neurons develop)

@jbschirtzinger Yea there is a fair argument against such a cost to tax payers... generally I would agree with you here. But its the only ethical alternative I can think of that doesnt violate the rights of the mother or fetus.

@dukepaaron Did something new happen? or is this a general statement.

Sorry if you had to deal with this recently.

I think I am very unusual in the sense that I believe abortions should be tax-paid, free to everyone, and pregnancy tests should also be free.... BUT I also think abortion should be very limited, to something around the first **10 weeks** at most.

I've had both right and left leaning folks loose their shit over that. Always entertaining

#Abortion #Healthcare

@manlycoffee Everything needs the right balance of course.

But there is a real problem where a certain group of people, usually the toxic ones, loose their shit over a respectful and polite difference of opinion. They seem to feel **their** post int he replies is not a place for respectful discussion, that it is rude... Its mostly those sort of people that are ruining society.

I see the effect on so many people, being scared to speak their mind and saying little to nothing online and when they do its so curated and fake that it almost comes across obnoxious...

We need more reply guys with good intents :)

@WiseMagic

All good :)

@TruthSandwich @georgetakei

@manlycoffee Ok yea, by reply guy i thought you meant "voicing counter-opinions is bad"... i see now you mean "providing stupid opinions you dont take time to fact check is bad"... and on that we agree... Kudos on recognizing that.

All I am suggesting is dont let that stop you from jumping in and providing a reply or even a disagreement (politely)... just, do a little fact checking first :)

@WiseMagic

I dont mind you being included int he conversation. Just not sure why your responding as if i was directing it at you :) You are more than welcome to add your two cents of course.

I think you just mistook my reply to the sandwich as directed at you when it wasnt :)

@TruthSandwich @georgetakei

@TruthSandwich

Remember folks, anyone who disagrees with the Sandwich must be a Trumper!

@WiseMagic @georgetakei

@WiseMagic

Ok, that seems random and out of context... I never addressed you at all, let alone make any accusations of that nature... what prompted you to say that to me?

@TruthSandwich @georgetakei

@manlycoffee Sounds like a step backwards to be honest... "reply guy" sounds like 'provide healthy respectful opinions to a discussion".. the fact that you are avoiding doing this, likely due to the toxicity of the environment and not you, is sad, and a step backwards not forwards.

You didnt ditch a bad habit, you ditched a good and crucial one for a society that advances. You ditched a good habit for popularity. Understandable, so not trying to attack you. But I think its important to say.