🎓 Dr. Freemo 🇳🇱 @freemo@social.cleverlibre.org

@trinsec Hahah I think they did. They counted the windows and planned it... Boys after my own heart!

Tits the season...

#Funny #humor #Humour #Joke #Meme

@worldsendless Fired is where you are terminated for wrong doing, incompetence, or other dissatisfaction on the part of the employer.

Laid off is where you are let go due to down sizing or a restructuring of the company, but not due to any wrong doing on your part.

@lonelyowl

Oh and also the results even if we take the studies at face value even prove my point.

In Denver for example the group given a whopping 1000$ still had 1/3 of them waste the money on drugs and not get a home. Compare that to welfare where it would be conditional an incentive based, thus it would provide the home directly, thus not having this problem, 100% of people would therefore have homes if the home was provided instead of the cash.

@kilroy_was_here @DaveFernig

@lonelyowl

Ok do have a few minutes afterall so I'll give some quick pointed.

1) none of these are peer-reviewed studies

2) The first 2 studies are survey based, and not objectively measured. In other words, people can lie, and their feelings are less important than tangable results anyway. 2nd study as the study says didnt even show long term improvements.

3) None of the studies look at economic effects overall. The first one was too small, second one only cared about how people felt,

4) None of the studies address if their actual lifestyle and behaviors were improved or if bad behaviors enabled, which was the focus of what I stated

5) None of the studies showed UBI **Actually** helped, as in, that the people were able to earn more money as a result of the UBI rather than becoming dependent on the UBI (and thus causing wealth destruction).

@kilroy_was_here @DaveFernig

@futurebird Sort of... I make them from scratch (plant, to chemistry to bottle).. I only do it for fun as special gifts for the occasional friend.

I dont really wear them though or anything.

@lonelyowl

> No dude, that's literally what we care about - helping poor people and spending as little money and resources as possible so that the money saved can be spent on helping more people.

Right we want to actually **help** poor people, that is the priority over effiency. UBI **harms** poor people by enabling them (giving them money and fueling bad habbits with no conditions placed on it). Since helping poor people is the priority UBI is a solid no.

Also the fact that it fuels wealth destruction it has the secondary effect of not just negating any perceived effiency but also harming the overall economy significantly compared to incentive based welfare.

> A fun thing that ubi was tested several times, we have an empirical evidence that it works, in different economic landscapes. Yet people still think it will break the economy and turn everyone in lazy bastards

No I have talked in depth about how most of the studies suggesting UBI is a net positive is easily debunked. When I have time ill dig up my old posts on it where I debunk these sorts of claims in detail. I dont have the bandwidth for that level of engagement right now.

@kilroy_was_here @DaveFernig

@DaveFernig

Effecient and cheaper is not what we need to care about here.

First we care about what gets people out of poverty, not what is cheapest. Ubi doesnt do that, quite the opposite it enables bad behavior

Second, UBI leads to wealth destruction and is bad for the economy due to the above reason and will ultimately cause harm, not good.

@kilroy_was_here

@lonelyowl13

Oh yes, I misread that. My apologies, no issue with the software then afterall. Thanks for pointing that out.

@clacke

@lonelyowl13

The feature which allows an admin block to be overruled is not what I have issue. The fact that the software itself dictates pre-blocked servers is something I am not ok with.

@clacke

@lonelyowl13 @bigcat

Thank you, looks like QOTO :)

@bigcat Whats the hashtag say in english?

@clacke I see plenty of reasons in there to block threads, not a single thing to justify software blocking by default.

@fleeblewidget I dont think it was ever meant to be restricted to people you know directly. Since day one they had the ability to pay to circumvent that.

@dansup

Well I certainly will be refusing to use pixelfed then, this is uncalled for.

@johnhamelink Huh? What resources... Besides if the resources were more valuable than the subscription than it is a charity in its own right.

@bonifartius They can increase the rate without offering that service.

@Ted How does making less money make their figures look better?