🎓 Dr. Freemo 🇳🇱 @freemo@social.cleverlibre.org

@georgetakei Its all in good fun, I really dont see the problem as long as its done in jest.

What are your thoughts though?

I just watched a court video of someone represented pro se (he represents himself as a lawyer) and then he used attorney-client privilege when he was being questioned and the prosecutor goes "You are claiming attorney-client privilege... for yourself, with yourself" and he says "yes" lolol

@nobodyinperson I see. In that case sounds like its time to find a new service :) Sorry I am not more help

@nobodyinperson

ohhh i missed that part then... but if your issue then is just loosing all the messages (not sure why that would happen but i beleive you) there is probably some way you can save then restore the file system that backs it.

Sorry i dont have a horse in this race it seems, I missed something critical I think

What people think getting investment and owning a company looks like:

Pay is huge
Everyone else does the work for you
Never need to work overtime

What it really looks like:

Working for free for the first year or two
You work 100 hour weeks, and need to work every day
Spend most of your time training and mentoring employees to give them marketable job skills (and giving them raises before you even get paid)

@nobodyinperson

But the latest release DOES have signal-desktop (different package than signal-desktop-bin)... aside fromt he bin being a bit faster to install why does it matter, seems the non-bin should be fine no?

https://search.nixos.org/packages?channel=23.11&show=signal-desktop&from=0&size=50&sort=relevance&type=packages&query=signal

@miyagiyoda Depends largely on the location. In some states as far as my limited knowledge goes a no trespassing sign might be sufficient if they dont have a warrant or exigent circumstances. I know in PA it is supposed to be.

Problem is a cop can easily lie and say there was no sign (and perhaps rip it down even). A written formal notice is a little harder to talk their way out of.

Im watching cop interaction videos and one thing i heard a few cops say now to people who refused to answer questions or give them a hard time.. they ask "Why do you hate cops so much?".... no no no buddy, these people dont hate you, they are **scared** of you, big difference. People just dont tend to like people they are scared of, but that is secondary!

@realcaseyrollins

Also keep in mind, its still better to do it before hand for other reasons.

If you trespass an officer once he already has his foot in your door and refuses to leave. He will probably make an excuse like "oh he was acting aggressive, or he looked like he was in distress".. but if he is pre-emptively trespassed he commits a crime the second he steps foot on your property before he even gets near the house. So his usualy excuses fall thin. Moreover if he is a n idiot (as many cops are) and tries to use those excuses anyway they wont be valid in court in the pre-trespass case. Since he needs a exigent circumstance **before** stepping on your property, otherwise he can come up with one after the fact.

@freeschool

@realcaseyrollins @freeschool

In theory sure... but the cop would have to be willing to actually issue himself a tresspass warning. HE probably wont in the heat of the moment.

@realcaseyrollins @freeschool

Im sure there is some exception, but ive seen the tresspass process by watching a lot of lawyer videos that analyze police interactions (a fun past time of mine) and I think i have a decent understanding.

Simply saying someone is trespassed isnt enough. First they must tell you to leave, if you leave then you cant be id'ed or get the actual official tress pass warning. If the cops get there and they witness you being asked to leave you must be given the chance to leave, if you do they cant ID you or issue the tresspass warning, but should you come back at any time they will issue the tress pass warning, it is not criminal to come back though.

Once you have the tresspass warning then if yous tep ont he property again you go to jail and face criminal charges.

Also a cop can not trespass you, the owner must initiate it. A cop also can not solicit a trespass (that is request of the owner to trespass someone).

That said in some states you can preemtively trespass someone, other states you cant.

@realcaseyrollins Fair :)

@bluGill

All valid points. And knowing that ACAB this is obviously a very likely outcome.

But frankly. I'd want them to. Them trying to pretend there is an emergency at my house is fine, when their lies come out in court and the evidence shows their wrong, all that did was get him in jail in the end.

In fact i can even see it as a trap. Do the tresspassing, then setup your house with a ton of cameras. When they inevitably do what they do and go ACAB on you, just surrender peacefully and cooperate and then bring up the tresspass in court and the video tape and you wind up putting the whole precinct behind bars. I'm ok with that.

@freeschool

Im not a law expert, the fine nuance is beyond me. Frankly im not sure what recourse you could take to tresspass an officer if other officers refuse to take your request. Let alone something you can do at the scene.

I am tempted to record a video and go to the police station and ask "If i give you an arbitrary list of names without any further details, would you be willing to official register a tresspass warning so they wont be allowed".

Then when i get them on recording saying yes (as this is fairly normal) id love to see them try to weasels out of it when they get a list of every person in their own precinct. Just the reaction alone would be priceless.

@neil