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@kneworldodor

Thats generally not the case for salary unless explicitly stated in a contract (in which case it isnt threft). Typically you are expected to work whatever hours are needed to finish your job on time, but you are also welcome to exchange that by working fewer hours during down time. Typically you are expected to average 40 hours a week, where some weeks might be 60 hours others may be 20.

@scott_guertin @georgetakei

@MMRnmd

I'm reading it now, but god this is why I hate news and most written articles... Soooo many wasted words, they could have summarized this whole article in like 5 bullet points with references.

Again nothing against you but all those words talked about smith, a bunch of stuff related to how needles and injections dont work, and then talked about how they are moving to nitrogen hypoxia.. It really made a very piss poor attempt at arguing why its worse, just a bunch of things that his lawyers are trying in court and some off remarks from some random dude with an opinion....

How is that forwarding the conversation with anything fact-based on the analysis of the use of nitrogen gas? We have tons of deaths already caused by it and know fairly well what those effects look like. So I dont get how someones lawyer trying to make an argument (and failing) is relevant honestly.

@stux

@DrALJONES

Fascism was on the ballot before trump got on it. Now its just on there one more extra time.

@jeff

I am very resistant to nitrogen narcosis. I can breath air right up to the oxygen toxicity limit pressures while compltely ignoring the nitrogen narcosis... have hundreds of dives logged right at that line.

I feel like for me it wouldnt be quite as enjoyable :)

@stux

@stux

The thing is its the association with killing people that is the important part here... making the gas the important part and not the killing is really just a bad take.

Killing people like the nazis is bad... making people breath a gas (without killing them) is not bad, despite the fact that the nazis made people breath gases. However making people breath gases that kill them is wrong, but because it kills them, not because they are breathing gases.

@dis

@dis

Generally @stux is a good guy, so I wouldnt be so mean to him. I do agree it was a very very bad take though.

@jeff

I am a technical diver myself, full trimix.

I agree gas-based death is easily the most humane ways to go, and nitrogen narcosis one of the best.

That said you only get nitrogen narcosis at high pressures ordinary nitrogen hypoxia is humane but not at all like narcosis.

@stux

@stux

Huh? The majority of school shooters dont use AR-15, likely for this reaason. Moreover most school shooters have never owned a gun before (by virtue of the fact of being a kid) so they arent picking guns because they are the most effective at killing, they are picking them because they are the only one they can get their hands on (and small-game guns are the most common in the usa due to being the most affordable)

@zeitverschreib

@stux You have to see the harm.. you just suggested a method of effectively torturing people to death instead of using gas simply because gas is associated with nazis, you completely abandoned suffering as a top concern because you followed the logic of "Hitler liked birthday cake so birthday cake is bad" (just the more emotional variant of that argument).

@zeitverschreib

Most AR-15 in the USA are used for small game, it isnt even powerful enough or suited for large game. Frankly, its just far too weak of a rife to be the best choice here, you'd want somethign more powerful to be humane.

@stux

@stux

> I'm sure a toxic cocktail or pills or whatever must be a much humane method but not gass

What? No, thats a horrible way to die. It takes hours, you get sick, you throw up, you have time to feel the effects... god that sounds like torture.

Nothing personal but this is why toxic identity politics is so bad... caring more about associations and how something looks to the point of torturing people to kill them rather than the humane way to do it simply cause "the nazis did it that way" is just, self destructive way to reason about the world.

No no no, please, dont use that logic ever again im begging you.

@stux

Well we certainly agree that execution is bad,..

But how is gas worse simply for being a "nazi thing"... wouldnt using another method where people suffer more but its not a "nazi thing" be far worse? Like are we really prioritizing morality by association over actual morality based on suffering?

@stux

Is your objection to execution by gas, or execution at all?

I agree that the death penalty is wrong. But if you are going to have the death penalty gas is probably the most humane way to do it.

@mjambon Thats why I created the poll. I had a theory that each side would have exactly the same ratio of people who thought their candidate would win... and I was right :)

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