🎓 Dr. Freemo 🇳🇱 @freemo@social.cleverlibre.org

@realcaseyrollins

Hahaha good, yea i havent gotten the "poast" feel from noauthority yet, so havent had the need to block them. But sadly most free speech instances eventually get so toxic I need to block the whole instance. Lets hope that doesnt happen here.

@eriner

@realcaseyrollins

Yea we can make a block hard if we wanted. Though we would only do it for extreme stuff like CP

@eriner

@realcaseyrollins

Cool, hows the hatespeech and trolling? In check or has it festered yet?

@eriner

@eriner Not familiar with that link until you just shared it. But yea answers the question, thanks.

We dont block for free speech so your good. But in a few versions we will offer a feature of managed block lists. so we will basically start blocking free speech instances that exhibit hatespeech, but our users can override the instance level blocks if they want.

@eriner

Are you a free speech server though? I havent looked?

That said its pretty common on the fedi for there to be a strong dose of "crazy" among the aggressive blockers.

@skobkin

I already noticed the side effects too. Particularly the emotional ones and the nausea. But the nausea doesnt bother me as I have a strong stomach and doesnt really feel like nausea to me. But I can see how to others it would feel like nausea.

@skobkin

You will have to remember to ask me. Im only 4 days in so its a bit early for me to speak on any sort of long term feedback about it. But I can say on day 4 the effects are very noticeable and drastic in quite a few ways.

#Ozempic / #Semiglutide is a bit of an odd expiernce for me. I figure this is how normal people feel now... very alien compared to my normal relationship with hunger and cravings.

@Fishbed

Hahah indeed :)

@stux @zeitverschreib

@Fishbed

100% spot on.

I suspect what is happening here is Stux is actually a good person. Like any good person you hear about the death penalty and you are appalled. He has an emotional reaction (a very justified one). Then in that state he hears about gassing, and rightfully associates it with Nazis. He should be associating the murder with nazi's but the gas part is what stands out for some reason. So now he is offfended at the gas choice, in reality I think he is just offended by the murdering and the association with nazis is just too easy to make the association even though its not the part that matters.

Stux has the tendency to get a little emotional when literal nazi shit is going down, and well, can we even blame him?

@stux @zeitverschreib

@MennoWolff

I am notoriously difficult to find a vein on. I have been in emergency situations where they needed to get an IV in me and they couldnt do it even after 3 different people tried.

But what are you even trying to accomplish here by finding ways to force a lethal injection to work? We have a far more effective way that just works as-is with absolutely none of these risks and is more humane... why are you trying to wrangle a way to keep injections alive at all?

@MennoWolff

> It beats me why they don't just sedate these people and simply chop off their head or so.

Because there is more risk of suffering. Sedation step might not work right. It also disfigured the body for a proper funeral and is messy. A single gas that has both sedative and lethal effects is the lowest risk and most humane of any options. Particularly when its biologically simple so has no potential for drug interactions or an immune system response.

@stux

@MennoWolff

Gas flow will be very high so none of the examples you give will matter. Even if all that happens he will still have a lethal dose of N2.

Also N2 has sedative effects and there is no suffering when you have low but sufficient oxygene. So even in the worst case its sedative effects will slow breathing and result in the situation still killing him humanely.

@stux

@MennoWolff

> Meh. How is making a machine that administers a fluid intravenously complicated?

I take it you arent in the medical industry and have never had to give an IV based on this statement. As I said to those who are knowledgable on this the answer is many ways:

1) Finding a vein, this can be hard on many people. In the hospital it isnt uncommon that an expert wont be able to find a vein on either arm or even the hands.

2) Once a vein is found it may not work, for example it may be a collapsed vein and wont take the drug.

3) If there is damage to the vein it may leak into surrounding tissue causing a less than lethal dose, or cause the death to be prolonged

4) if you miss the vein you may accidentally inject into the muscle or fat, again causing a less than lethal dose or prolonged death

5) Since the lethal injection is a multi-stage dose you have multiple chances for error that can cause suffering. For example a sedative is administered first, then the lethal injections. If the first stage breaks and the second succeeds it can lead to suffering.

6) Because of the increased complexity drug interactions can prevent or effect the first stage and thus cause suffering int he second stage.

7) You can have something clog up the system or a motor break or something, since its an orcastra of events this can lead to all sorts of suffering or issues

All of the above more or less doesnt apply to N2.

@Oggie @gnate

> If the first line had instead been 'this is why we invented the comically racist mandatory minimum drug schedule classification', would that have suited you better?

No

With that change the quote would still be factually and logically wrong. The phrase "and then criminalize both heavily" makes no sense since Nixon did not criminalize both heavily. The criminalization took place 44 years earlier and Nixon actually **reduced** the penalties not increased them.

Therefore even with that change its factually wrong,and logically wrong since the reason it claims nixon did a thing he didnt actually do cant possibly make logical sense.

> That's what this is in reference to, I am fairly certain, and the controlled substances act business we're still dealing with fallout now from. That was from Nixon in 1970, and is when the deeply horrible systems got installed.

Yes this is trying to reference the 1970 act, but again that act **reduced** the penalty on possession from a felony to a misdemeanor, it didnt make it more criminalized it made it less. Thus why literally no part of the original quote makes any sense logically or factually.

@MelodyCooper