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Apparently from what im hearing from people im filling up the conversation on entire local feeds... fun.

So if the whole argument is that being able to see radicalized propaganda will make people radicalized, and thus is wrong to allow people to see it... does that work both ways.. If you are "radicalized" towards good and taking doing and treating people good to an extreme, then shouldnt the bad radicalized people turn into good radicalized people by that same exposure to good?

The logic doesnt really add up for me, but regardless this is not the reason why we have open federation as many of you know, but it does show a flaw in their logic.

@freemo I have some empathy for the situation Eugen finds himself in, but caving to Nazis is never a good idea (not to mention, never the ethical choice).

I do like it here on Mastodon, but the huge influx of people from Twitter means there are far fewer image descriptions than from even a couple of weeks ago. I’d love to tell every one of them about this, but quite frankly there are so many I don’t have the patience. I’d dearly love it if apps could block posts unless an image description was added to every photo, but I suppose that’s too much to hope for. I’m feeling really excluded from so many conversations. It’s getting as bad as Twitter.

@ypc_bunsen just to add: in the end I am staying on QOTO for the tech features I value. Works for me. And thanks to @freemo for the supporting admin and devel work.

@ypc_bunsen What policy of free speech are you talking about? Our ToC is here, it doesnt say anything about free speech.

qoto.org/about/more

We have very specific rules, and that includes this part of our ToC:

> ... hate-based speech such as sexist, racist, or homophobic speech will not be tolerated, be kind to each other.
>
> QOTO aims to provide a community where our users do not fear being punished for their personal opinions. We do not allow people to disseminate ideologies that are abusive or violent towards others. Demonstrating support for or defending ideologies known to be violent or hateful is a bannable offense. This includes, but is not limited to: racial supremacy, anti-LGBTQ or anti-cis-gender/anti-straight, pro-genocide, child abuse or child pornography, etc. While we recognize questions and conversation regarding these topics are essential for a STEM community, in general, doing so in bad faith will result in immediate expulsion.

@Romaq You want to read a very early first draft I have of a solution?

@dusnm My solution is **not** to convince anyone not to use defederation.. so your making a lot of assumptions about my intent here.

You might want to ask yourself, why do yo already find yourself disagreeing with me when I havent even made my proposal public yet?

@freemo @kev @da5nsy @mike

Thank you for this update, I am planning to stay here on qoto,

If need be I can block people / servers who support or who are posting inappropriate content easy enough

What I have seen has NOT originated from Qoto, which makes it far easier to block the server it does originate on.

The first black child ever allowed to attend a white school is only 68 years old now.
White parents pulled their children from school. White teachers refused to teach her.
Ruby Bridges now works as an activist & public speaker
This wasn’t a million years ago. /1

! I like it when the is for everyone and am trying out the . Please bear with me; I was told I should use lots of and am trying out the features.

I'm using on Android. I already have a : can I add hashtags in Fedilab to my home feed? Right now I have some hashtags in the top bar but I have to view them all separately. !

How many characters are too many? Can I just go on forever? I heard there was a limit but I still haven't reached it. Maybe it's 600 characters? 1000? I guess at some point the numbers will just go red and I will know what's up. Ok it wasn't 600. I'll just search online then because this is getting way out of hand. ...GREAT SCOTT I'm glad I did: it's 65,535 characters on my instance. 😂

@QOTO ok ther eis actually a bit of a problem.. need to fix our s3...

@QOTO ok ther eis actually a bit of a problem.. need to fix our s3...

I want to thank everyone for the ovwhelming support for our cause, you guys mean a lot.

I have been tthinking a lot lately and thing I have a social solution to this problem. It is something I am going to start doing a writeup on ttoday. I think it will not just thelp QOTO but in general address the unwantant fracturing of the fediverse.

I will share the dettails once my writeup is complete but if anyone is intterested in hearing more or potentially help being a part of it, please reply here or reach out to me in DM.

@evan

If you or anyoine might be interested in getting involved in a solution (social not technical) hit me up.

@danhon

It's perfectly reasonable and possible for *both* of these statements to be true:

* it is better here than on Twitter
* this better *isn't good enough*

Federation and decentralization *as currently and inconsistently and idiosyncratically practiced* while better, are not good enough.

Digging in and saying that decentralization and federation *is* good enough is really, really unhelpful.

Also, the potential for better does not mean the practical experience is better.

@freemo Yeah I too run a Friendica instance and I never de-federeated. This is getting old for me already, and I kept screaming about this for a while now. A bunch of admins on the fediverse act like Musk I swear. Quickly block other instances in the name of thousands or millions. Non transparent too.

I have no clue what's the issue here....I've been on the fediverse for 2 years now.....where are these trolls and idiots and nazi and child porn? I have seen none. Maybe because I carefully select who I want to follow and if anyone is a troll I block them immediately. Simple. Works great. Thus, users has a tremendous power at taking care of themselves and new tools/options can improve the situation, such as the ability to mute comments on your posts or only accept comments from your friends, or block lists that individuals can enable for themselves, and so on.

De-federation is a very primitive and destructive behavior.
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