marathon @marathon0@social.cleverlibre.org

US Media Pushing for World War III – Consortium News https://consortiumnews.com/2022/03/20/us-media-pushing-for-world-war-iii/

@hans
What do you consider 'proof'? Just curious, because such a thing really isn't possible during a war.

#ukraine #NATO war media writes about but doesn't listen to #Mariupol residents: " #Ukrainian army threw us out of our homes to take firing positions, old people and kids. They locked families in the basements and abandoned them. The #Russian troops rescued us, they are our brothers "

https://nitter.42l.fr/timand2037/status/1505870115681841152#m

#Ukraine There was a Russian missile hit overnight in Kiev—A shopping mall was hit. Pictures show why it was hit. Huge secondary explosions too.
https://nitter.42l.fr/Karmabash/status/1505857236127596544#m

@hans
Well, I don't subscribe to the theory that the Russians are bad. The history is that the Anglo Empire has historically had issues with the Russian Empire. They're afraid to compete with them and China. That what it boils down to, in this era.

@hans
Zelensky has never been in charge.

@hans
Mistakes happen, but what I've gleaned is that the apartment buildings are often used by Ukrainian Military, spotters and ATGM teams. Hell, they've even been parking armour next to civilian occupied bldgs. They want casualties among the human population—why?

Because civilians think like you when they see the news or pictures of bombed buildings are aghast. Of course, they don't think critically and ask, what is the context, and is this context true.

Ask yourself this: Why would the Russian's be bombing the people that they're trying to save and protect? They're (Russians) are trying to stop the wanton artillery shelling of the Donbass and other areas that has been happening for the past 8 years. NATO and the EU didn't do anything when Ukraine ignored the Minsk accords, which they signed and agreed to.
That forced Putin's hand, that and Zelensky saying Ukraine will seek atomic weapons.
He had no choice—No Russian leader would allow NATO at their borders armed with nuclear missiles, FFS.
NATO aren't the good guys here!
Hell NATO which we know is the USA deliberately filled the Ukraine military with the confidence that they could take on the Russian Army, knowing that NATO wouldn't intervene when the shit hit the fan. So, NATO left the Ukrainians high and dry. Just because the goddam NeoCons in Washington wanted it this way. Some of these Christian right-wingers in the USA want to fulfill bible prophecy. AFAIC they're no different from ISIS.

@hans
I don't know about the west, but they aren't preventing anybody from leaving. Depends on where the safe corridor is at a particular time and if it's safe …
They have in the past let folks go to Poland at checkpoints they controlled. Of course, military aged men and women have to prove they're not Azov, or Ultra Nationalist 1st.

@libreleah
Sounds better! Free to many American's sounds "cheap" and not as good as commercial. Not that this is true, but methinks the populace thinks like this.

@hans
That and seeing Manfred Mann's name, brings back memories!

@hans
Well I saw a photo (think I posted it actually) of a child and his father shrink-wrapped to a pole! AFAIU it's not exactly warm in Ukraine at this time of year, either. Yes, there are two sides to the story, but overwhelmingly all we're seeing is NATO propaganda! According to them, Russia is bogged down and NOT winning, which isn't what I've seen happening.

@hans
Isn't Mariupol closer to Russia? The folks in Mariupol are overwhelmingly Russian and Russian speaking FWIU.