marathon @marathon0@social.cleverlibre.org

Apparently, krauts are tryna get people to kidnap governors, too: https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/german-domestic-intelligence-running-100s-fake-right-wing-extremist-social-media .

> “In order to be really credible, it is not enough to share or like what others say, you also have to make statements yourself. That means that the agents also bully and agitate,” says the report of an agent who claims to have joined the agency to “do something against right-wing extremists.” This involves actively encouraging people in their worldview, but she says it is her job to “feed” the scene.

In older news, the German government funded the guy that dug up the Libsoftiktok dox: https://thepostmillennial.com/german-government-funds-research-project-that-doxxed-libs-of-tik-tok .

And before that, a guy claiming to be an anonymous US military intelligence operative on HN says foreign governments are all over the US parts of the web: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30528382 .

Around fedi, there's Eunomia (a research project to build an anti-disinformation tool, sponsored by the EU) and the EU's got a presence on fedi: http://demo.fedilist.com/instance/social.network.europa.eu .

I wonder what the German government's interest in US citizens' Twitter accounts and 4chan posts is. I think the number of active accounts on fedi is probably higher than the number of active posters on 4chan, but I think the feds don't understand fedi very well. (On the other hand, the EU is here, and individual feds might understand fedi, though I don't know how much latitude they have to pick where they post.) So maybe Germany's got people here.

Do they need to directly, though? A long time back I had pointed out that if you wanted to push things, it's easier to find someone else that's already doing that with some success and kick them some resources. This is what the CIA did when they popularized modern art: they found an art collector that liked modern art and started cutting him checks. ( http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/modern-art-was-cia-weapon-1578808.html ) So you find someone that's saying the things you want someone to say, then you toss them some cash or some sycophantic adulation or whatever makes them keep doing it. (I had pointed out, a long time back, that this kind of thing doesn't even need a state actor on fedi: Twitter can afford to kick $30k to someone that is breaking the stuff that gets people to leave Twitter for fedi. This is way more cost-effective than doing it yourself.)

So then there's the question, why's Germany taken it upon itself to try to find things it has decided to call "right-wing" (a term so broad and that varies so much by speaker that it could apply to anything) and then to try to eliminate it, regardless of the country? Germany's also pushing this "no anonymity on the internet" agenda, which they have on the books domestically but they really want to make sure it spreads globally.
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