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"debate"

Interesting language to describe the government screaming at the top of their lungs at civil society.

Curiously, the groups in mainland Europe which are more in favor of chat control are either branches of foreign groups, or receive a lot of money from them.

Whereas, ones which are more local tend to be far more sceptical.

That is what I've seen at least.

@tripu @freemo Curiously, murder is also an issue which isn’t emotionally charged in politics in quite the same way.

I suppose I'll add that that BDSM (which I mentioned briefly) is still not going to be associated with crime per the studies.

If that is insufficiently clear.

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@tripu @freemo Someone doesn't typically go out of their way to do something with so little to gain (and widely condemned).

@tripu @freemo Some studies show that video games are associated with less violence, one theory is that it keeps young people preoccupied.

The evidence in favor has been pretty weak, and even that weak evidence is very likely to just be noise.

@glynmoody I think with this bill, that was kind of obvious political babble.

What matters is the *text* of the bill, especially their insistence in keeping particular text in the bill (which really says a lot), not what an official says (they have a long history of playing down practical implications of bills, and playing up theoretical benefits).

Even if they don't use it, they could *threaten* to use it.

Also, a requirement for someone to write a "report" justifying it's use is useless, if they can just put one of their friends in the role.

Also, this bill looks like a train-wreck. It conjures up corpses of decrepit obscenity laws and other arcane parts of Britain's legal system. It also invokes vague language which will chill free expression.

A structure like this is probably also uniquely amenable to moral panic, especially with how vague the language is. Even if it's a relatively neutral official, who is to say they won't panic over something.

theguardian.com/media/2021/nov
At one point, they considered putting the editor of the most right wing populist paper in Britain in-charge of the "regulator".

I'm avoiding commenting on this one an awful lot one, otherwise you fall into the trap of "free expression is a matter of taking about which celebrity has been hit, rather than far more systemic forms of censorship".

But, it's another example of "going by the seat of your pants" moderation, where YouTube jumps in inexplicably.

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It's also arbitrary and inconsistent. Is YouTube going to start policing every random celebrity who has ever had a sex scandal?

I don't think that's going to work.

YouTube taking on a role of an unappointed judge of morals.

@salixlucida A win for anyone who doesn't want to live in Disneyland and want to have conversations for grown ups.

"According to plaintiffs, Wayne County seizes vehicles simply because of the vehicle’s location in an area generally associated with crime. Regardless of the owner’s innocence, Wayne County impounds the vehicles and its contents until the owner pays a redemption fee. This fee is $900 for the first seizure, $1,800 for the second, and $2,700 for the third, not including other fees for towing and storage.

If the owner is unwilling or unable to pay the redemption fee, the only alternatives are either to abandon the vehicle or to wait for county prosecutors to decide whether to initiate civil forfeiture proceedings."

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ij.org/press-release/sixth-cir

"ARLINGTON, Va.—Today, the 6th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals ruled that Wayne County violated the rights of Detroiters by not offering prompt court hearings within two weeks of their vehicles being seized. Wayne County regularly seizes and retains vehicles for months or longer without providing an opportunity for a hearing to challenge the seizure and get their vehicles back."

"According to the court’s own opinion, it usually takes “at least four months, on top of any previous delays (usually an additional four to six months)” for a car owner to get in front of a judge after their car has been seized. The court further held “that Wayne County violated [the] Constitution when it seized plaintiffs’ personal vehicles—which were vital to their transportation and livelihoods—with no timely process to contest the seizure."

reclaimthenet.org/youtube-demo Russell Brand sounds like a piece of garbage, and his excuses are equally pathetic, but I don't think YouTube should be swooping in to punish him.

It was deplorable but it didn't have anything to do with their platform.

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Never run with toast in my mouth but I have a fresh loaf from the oven here.

reason.com/2023/09/19/federal-

"A federal judge has granted an injunction blocking a California law that would force online businesses and social media platforms to estimate the ages of people visiting their sites and protect children from seeing content that might cause harm, stating that the law likely violates the First Amendment and would likely lead to online government-fueled censorship."

@fisunov @MagnetoMancer While I'm sure it's fun to brainstorm ideas as to how social media could be better, in the real world, no one is going to want to pay to use a social network.

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I don't particularly like Biden, ideally, the Democrats would have a better candidate, but "the other guy has a lot of problems".

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