skells @skells@social.cleverlibre.org

@11112011 when the Ukraine flag hits chefkiss.jpg just right

@amerika @quasifly you get a partial hangout, a mea culpa and nothing changes

which is pretty much what happened

however the public, particularly technically minded members, took what was learned to heart and some mitigating factors were put in place

more generally, does trump run/win in 2016 without snowden and assange's actions?

@amerika citizen surveillance was a feature, not a bug

@amerika we can go around in circles on this all day, i wouldn't trust the right thing to have been done and Snowden was in a better position than most to understand how they operated

maximum public exposure as fast and hard as possible appears to be the pragmatic solution

anything else is pretty naive imo

@amerika it's not the bureaucratic system that's of concern but the broader democratic society(ies) that are impacted

@amerika @quasifly it's the NSA not a Wendy's

@threalist imagine if twitter federated

@amerika escalating gets you fired and clearance revoked, if not worse

@amerika isn't it precisely a public optics move that's required

@amerika upon what basis? taleb just asserts it as if fact, although I admit it's a reasonable suspicion to have

@furgar dot-com sir

people using real names on fedi wierds me out

https://yewtu.be/watch?v=cbrT3m89Y3M

@11112011

@thatguyoverthere has returned to the timeline, the omens are good this day

@thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club @thatguyoverthere@charlestown.social yeah i remember you mentioning the move now, not sure what happened