skells @skells@social.cleverlibre.org

@freemo @zpartacoos do check out the paper I linked above from the FLCCC.

Don't read many medical papers but I've never seen data like it.

Noisy, yes, but the signal is coming from like 7 different methodologies.

@freemo @zpartacoos yeah we're pretty much in agreement. If you're at risk, crack on with the vaccine imo, if you're young and healthy it's worth some thought and research.

Where I disagree is that ivermectin seems to have a far better risk profile than vaccines and perhaps is more effective.

Precautionary principle should insist vaccines were never touched and ivermectin used instead. This data was available in Dec 2020.

@zpartacoos @freemo https://trialsitenews.com/are-the-covid-19-vaccines-safe-and-effective/

Haven't had a chance to check this guy out but he's done his homework if not a specialist, take with a pinch of salt.

@zpartacoos @freemo would be very interested to hear an open-minded specialists opinion on the data that is available though

https://trialsitenews.com/

this website appears better than most in terms of openness *and* professionalism

@zpartacoos @freemo
https://flccc.net/flccc-ivermectin-in-the-prophylaxis-and-treatment-of-covid-19/

The evidence in favour of ivermectin is rock solid. The evidence against vaccines shaky at best.

My suspicion is that unless you work for Pfizer or Moderna you're unlikely to find the data necessary to intelligently comment - other than VRAES etc. which seem broken and plausibly deniable by design.

Better to fight the battle for ivermectin than against the vaccines from what I can see.

Review of Ivermectin use for Covid-19 by FLCCC

This was written in Dec 2020

https://flccc.net/flccc-ivermectin-in-the-prophylaxis-and-treatment-of-covid-19/

In Bath, England, Dr. Tess Lawrie, a prominent independent medical researcher who evaluates the safety and efficacy of drugs for the WHO and the National Health Service to set international clinical practice guidelines, read all twenty-seven of the Ivermectin studies Kory cited. “The resulting evidence is consistent and unequivocal,” she announced, and sent a rapid meta-analysis, an epidemiolocal statistical multi-study review considered the highest form of medical evidence, to the director of the NHS, members of parliament, and a video to Prime Minister Boris Johnson with “the good news...that we now have solid evidence of an effective treatment for COVID-19...” and Ivermectin should immediately “be adopted globally and systematically for the prevention and treatment of COVID-19.”

The scientific evidence was overwhelming, he said. The data from twenty-seven studies, sixteen of them randomized controlled trials, demonstrated, with highly statistically significant, overwhelmingly positive, consistent, and reproducible rates, that people who got sick with COVID-19 were far more likely to quickly get better at home when they took Ivermectin. They didn’t go to the hospital. Housemates of people with COVID-19 who took Ivermectin didn’t get infected. People who got moderately ill in hospitals didn’t go to the ICU; they got better quicker and went home faster. Hospitals didn’t get overrun. The drug even saved elderly, critically ill COVID-19 patients from dying compared to those routinely dying elsewhere. Six prevention studies showed Ivermectin reduced the risk of getting COVID-19 by 92.5 percent, superior to many vaccines. Dr. Hector Carvallo, a professor of medicine at the University of Buenos Aires, gave 788 doctors and other health care workers in three medical centers weekly Ivermectin prophylaxis, with a control group of 407 doctors and others who didn’t get the drug. In the control group 236 people, or 58 percent, “had become ill with COVID.” Among the 788 who got Ivermectin, “no infections were recorded.”

IVERMECTIN

https://www.mountainhomemag.com/2021/05/01/356270/the-drug-that-cracked-covid

Boost guys, boost.