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@freemo @YorkshireTea what else, other than government policy, can cause such a huge shift

first, do no harm

@freemo @YorkshireTea there's not a lot you can say with any confidence with this data

one thing that stands out is that once excess mortality is outstripping covid mortality, it seems likely that the collective shift in government policy is doing more harm than good

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@freemo @YorkshireTea agreed, but again of the bat this would suggest that government policy is making things worse, not better.

throwing your hands up and screaming "it's the vaccines!" is bullshit though

@freemo @YorkshireTea that would be awesome

@freemo @YorkshireTea the reason I tagged you is because you're the only person I know who could credibly give a detailed synopsis of the logical fallacies

whatever though

you know the maths is getting serious when you turn the page horizontal

@freemo @YorkshireTea

Appears a very unscientific attitude, but I won't waste your time further.

Scuba looks cool tho

@YorkshireTea @freemo interested to hear your critique of this dude, looks troubling from my perspective

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@mkwadee ok dude

@mkwadee and from personal experience Germany is far more hard line in Covid response than the UK

@mkwadee I don't think that's the case at all, Labour have rubber stamped most of his policies.

@mkwadee Johnson has behaved, more or less, like almost every other national leader has in this, the only noticeable difference is that he has been reigned in by his own party (and principled individuals across the house) when his policies grossly overstepped our natural rights.

To repeat, France and Germany have been only too willing to overstep those bounds.

I'm not concerned with giving Johnson a rating, my concern is with government taking any more power than they have already arrogated themselves

https://youtu.be/ckKi01gqW7A

@mkwadee I'm doubtful circuit breakers would have worked, because a proportion of people would have ignored them and the problem continues

SAGE did recommend that we were treated as rational citizens and informed rather than ordered to do certain things, this would have been far healthier in the long term

as to hospitalisations and deaths on the rise, hospitalisations are picking up slightly but not deaths - the post you made a few days ago seemed to be an artefact of the holidays not an appreciable rise in deaths.

I wholeheartedly agree that science has been papered over in favour of caving to political pressure.

we've been terrorised by daily health briefings quite enough - the government has failed to make use of numerous early treatment options which have had incredible success in India and Japan. This makes their dictates on Covid illegitimate in my eyes and I'm glad there's a vocal and effective wing in government which behaves accordingly.