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@Russell I think it depends on the instance you're in.

On an instance with quote-toots which won't tolerate harassment, it should easily be reported to cull this behavior.

On an instance which doesn't care about harassment, an absence of quote-toots won't help make it a better instance so it doesn't matter.

To compare Twitter to ALL Fediverse servers is a bit unfair. Every server is different.

That said, this server I'm on already has quote-toots, almost since the beginning of the Fediverse. And all Misskey servers also have quote-posts. They already exists. There are a lot of servers having this already. Just not Vanilla Mastodon.

@ceoln A public timeline is indeed the local and federated timelines.

Glad that my explanation has helped, wasn't sure if I explained it clear enough. :)

But the option is still there so that sometimes I change my responses to followers-only, or even to DM if the situation warrants it. But yeah, when it's a normal response I don't seem to see much difference anymore between public and unlisted.

I just asked Freemo to make sure, yeah.. there is not really a difference between public and unlisted responses. There was some sort of exception with it for subscriptions, but I'm not going to delve there lol.

@ceoln The stuff with 'shown in public timelines' is just for the original post. And the responses by the same user of the original post to their original post. (in an uninterrupted fashion)

- I post something publicly. It gets shown in public timeline.
- I respond to that post, it's public, also shown in public timeline.
- I respond to my own post again, not public, it's not shown in public timeline.
- You respond to that public post. Not shown in public timeline.
- I respond to you. Not shown in public timeline. (the thread was interrupted by your response, so mine is a normal response too)

It's always been like this. :)

And that's why quote-toots are so very useful in bringing attention to a toot. You're posting as an original post with a toot attached to it. That toot will get the spotlight again this way.

@Soylentgraham Sounds good to me!

@ceoln It's valid for your own posts and uninterrupted responses to your own posts, yes.

But if I respond to you.. this is a public response, but you don't see it appearing in the local timeline, do you?

@ceoln I think my recent response might've explained it somewhat now? :)

@ceoln Well, if I reply to you with public mode on.. it won't end up in the public timelines. It doesn't really affect responses very much.

If someone follows me and you, they will see this in their home timeline. But the response is still fairly obscure to the rest of the Fediverse.

Now if I quote-tooted your post there, I'll post it as if it's my own post, but with yours attached. I can add commentary like 'See, this person has found this thing, it's intriguing!' or something, and this'll end up in all the public timelines because I made a post, not a response, and your quoted post gets highlighted with this.

@freemo @kjr Plus that if it is harassment, it can be reported and we will act accordingly.

So far it's mostly used for highlighting scientific publications here.

@tongutay The one moving forward with their head is going to be bald early in life. 😅

@signalstation
Hahaha. :D

But so you know, there's actually a whole Xmas tree growing industry.

@WendyW Ah, bribery! No wonder they're posing so nicely for the camera! 😋

@WendyW
The left one be like 'Why are you doing this to me hooman?'
Then the right one be like 'Just roll with it, it'll be over soon.'

@a_ledda
Aaah, iets wat ik nooit geweten kon hebben. Bedankt! :)

@lectrr

@lectrr
Wat doet Wiske met het einde-bord daar?

Ik vind die Winnie de Pooh aan tafel wel leuk gevonden. :D

Ah yigh, I'm now noticing the aftereffect of having tea spilled over my keyboard the other day. My ESC and ` buttons are very... I'd use the Dutch word 'stroperig' for it. :P As if there's a layer of syrup sticking stuff together below those buttons which makes those buttons very hard to press and slow to react.

I guess I'll have to grab my other keyboard soon. And then screw open this affected keyboard to cleanse it, heh.

@deNew_John Looking good and simple. We're planning simple but very filling meals too the coming days. :) Real Dutch meals too! For us Xmas is 25th and 26th. So today we'll probably order Chinese takeout, lol.

Merry Xmas to you too!

@satan Shouldn't it be charry instead of merry?

@freemo
Yes I know you don't pull from whole versions. But what was vanilla Mastodon version at when you pulled for the last time is a question that's still valid!

How can you have pieces of v4 code if you've not updated Qoto in a while and v4 is fairly recent?
And which feature(s) from v4 do we have then?

@mur2501