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@freemo you mean like 2.25 + 2.25 round up but simplified and left to philosophy ?

@freemo @louisrcouture

I see that as sustatinable and good.... I think a larger problem is how much we all feel entitled to.

north Americans carbon foot prints can be 10 times that of others.

@freemo @louisrcouture

I think its true to other nations like the US to its population has been going up but fairly slowly from its own long time ethnic groups and mostly immigration and their having children that brings the rate up so much.

its a complex issue and my personal belief is that people should have 1 or 2 children because traditionally children take care of the old or other peoples children do.

I think having more then 2 children is selfish. but I'll never see less then 2 as selfish.

@freemo @louisrcouture

yes but look at the birth/death rates in canada, our population goes up from immigration mostly... Im not saying they have enough people I mean new children to sustain the population without immigration.

@freemo @louisrcouture

North America hardly has enough to maintain its own population, Canada depends on immigrants to sustain our population.

There does have to be some children regionally.. Then there is who is having babies and good old who's genetics and cultures survive if there are large gaps in certain cultures because they are so nice to others and others that dont care about feelings.. one culture is interrupted that's not great either, kinda like idiocracy if you have seen that beginning of that?.

I do not doubt your good intent and I agree that population is an issue but its more complicated then our desires for depopulation.

to simply say "having children is selfish" is over simplifying.

if everyone stopped having children there would be a age gap and put alot of burden on young workers with to many old to take care of...

maybe it is selfish to want to live beyond the age of 60 ? of coarse I dont believe that either.

@freemo @louisrcouture

Its not an excuse. I have no children and probably will not have any.

if people had 1 or 2 children per couple the population would go down as well and there would still be enough young people to take care of the old. not enough young people can actually put a strain on other young people.

@freemo @louisrcouture

I think its good for people to have 1 or 2 kids per couple but not more.

Its good to have genetic diversity.

@freemo @Pat does that mean there is 2 or 4 depending on if those holes exist on the backside to?

@dearcatastrophewaitress there is indoor pools but I love swimming on the open lake .. The lake I live beside is called okanagan lake its beautiful and my goddess

@dearcatastrophewaitress me to I'm Pisces. I can only swim here 5-6 months of the year here where i am in Canada.

@freemo Im using the 1. def coming up in duckduck go

A hollowed place in something solid

@freemo

no holes since its just light coming from my monitor.

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