volkris @volkris@social.cleverlibre.org

@eastgate sounds like faulty electronics inside the bulb to me.

@liamvhogan I mean, I don't think support of authoritarianism has been a leftist cause traditionally, but more importantly here, such attacks end up confirming the claims of far-right extremists, firing them up rather than being extraordinarily effective in shutting them down.

Even if you're going to be authoritarian, fine, but please don't feed the trolls.

@Jayslacks you might have a different opinion if you were personally being negatively impacted by actions of his administration.

I wish he was boring. Instead I've been facing years now of having him throwing workplaces into disarray, threatening people's jobs, calling to question future funding, and generally just sticking his nose into things and mucking them up.

And that's not even getting into the rather not boring state of conflicts around the world.

Oh I wish Biden was boring. Sadly he's not.

@SeaGoatGirl I mean, they are the best self-promoters who leave people thinking they aren't self-promoting...

Taylor Swift is a pro!

@Dan_Ramos have you asked them?

@mike805 My sense is that a whole lot of it comes down to rebels without a place to direct their rebellion.

They need a The Man to fight against, but given the state of the US government they don't see much to fight against there, so they start making up monsters.

@freemo

@freemo yep.

It's the old internet adage don't feed the trolls.

Trump was on his way out of the limelight and into history until Democrats started renewing the attention and supporting his rhetoric by the way they acted.

@Free_Press aid to Ukraine is not being blocked.

Biden is requesting it but he doesn't have the funding for his project. You can't block funding that doesn't exist.

@LiamOMaraIV Right which is absolutely not what you said in your original post.

I'm glad you have come around.

@LiamOMaraIV I linked the order directly from the Supreme Court website. If you think the Supreme Court is wrong about the Supreme Court order, then I guess take it up with them?

@BohemianPeasant it depends on who you ask.

The other side says common sense says Trump obviously did not foment insurrection.

With recognizing that disagreement you won't see what the Supreme Court is working with, what they have to recognize as they come up with their ruling.

The fundamental question here is how do we settle that disagreement.

@maddad

@StephenRamirez that comes across as a mismash of ideas, conflating respect of election results with rejection of them, and back and forth, with something about courts involved somewhere along the process.

It's not a compelling case to anyone not already in the choir.

It's nonsense.

@jeze3D@mastodon.social Oh, no, it goes so much farther than that: not only are Americans not protesting, but they're actively encouraging by going out and taking action to reelect the same representatives.

Folks have commented that Americans are tired, and that would be a reasonable point except that people are apparently not so tired that they can't find the energy to go out and vote for the folks doing this stuff.

We don't need to protest. We need to stop actively empowering politicians who do bad things.

@opalmirror or they can point out that a lot of people are misreading the amendment.

Which is entirely the case, whichever side one might be on.

@cdarwin

@cdarwin I'd say it's really key that you didn't entirely quote the relevant part of the 14th Amendment.

And that highlights the problem here: a lot of people are insisting that this is an open and shut case by papering over important elements through such handwaving.

No, there are serious quesitons of law here, and it's entirely reasonable to say, based on the actual text, that the case really goes in favor of Trump.

Just proclaiming otherwise doesn't make it so.

@LiamOMaraIV No, the words of the court did not order such a thing.

Go ahead and read the words for yourself.

You'll see for yourself that the court did not make such an order.

@hughtaylorscifi@universeodon.com The problem is that the mastodon way of sorting feeds and displaying content promotes echo chambers.

Everybody is celebrating this idea of leaving algorithms behind, and even setting aside that chronological sort IS an algorithm, when you leave people with only hashtags and follows as the only ways of tailoring their feeds, you end up with even more echo chambers.

I don't think Mastodon was the best way to go. Maybe it was a minor improvement, maybe not, but it just wasn't the real solution to the problems people were looking to have solved.

@Ronial it's money for the poor ones because the poor ones derive value from using it as money!

Haven't I made that clear? I'm surprised you don't know by now how I think that since I think I spelled out how I think that a couple of times now.

It's almost like you just don't want to hear it because it doesn't match what you want to believe.

Or maybe you're just too busy thinking about the rich for some reason.

@nurglerider