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@cdarwin

That's the kind of thing that sounds simple but requires a little deeper thought to see how frought it is.

One step deeper is that on its own terms this would be seizure of private property. Fine. But, on account of "no external authority has granted them private ownership?" We don't normally accept that all is government by default, unless permission gives us permission to own.

Deeper is the nature of government ownership itself, as it's necessarily realized through executive branch interference. That's what ownership IS, functionally, so this implies presidential control over Supreme Court function.

No, this is a very bad idea.

Court control of court papers is not an anomaly but a simple implication of the independent judiciary.

@ClaraListensprechen4

@Nonilex

That gets things backwards.

So many of these "autocratic experiments" were ones that the people wanted. And now we see that the people wanted a change and they got that too.

This theory of a draconian antidemocratic Texas just doesn't hold up to observation.

Yes, often enough the people want dumb things. That they get those dumb things isn't antidemocratic but the opposite.

Yay democracy.

@lawprofblawg

But Trump vengeance is now only one side of the vice:
"a hitlist for a blue Congress hellbent on making life difficult for billionaires."

They'll keep following their incentives, as always.

@mhjohnson

Clay and Buck, the show that replaced Limbaugh, declared that the era of Trump is over and hold him largely accountable for the election failure.

I see a generational split, so it could be that half the party WILL abandon Trump while the older generation is so detached that they don't even see anything to hold against the guy.

That's how it's appeared in the hours after the election so far.

@fkq1q2r2

The issue there is, what were EV car margins? Do they have room to drop in price, or were the inputs taking up most of the sales prices as is?

IIRC companies like Rivian were still losing money on every car sold even with free money available, so there's really no room for price drops.
@mhjohnson

So far the main outcome I've seen of the election has been a splintering of Republicans among generational lines.

It's forced a reckoning where the younger group faces the boomers having driven the party off a cliff *while still not admitting that it's off a cliff*.

On conservative talk radio Clay and Buck say it was a disaster and largely Trump's fault. On the other end, Hannity says it's no big deal, the administration was great, and blames that darned media. Kilmeade says something went very wrong, but he doesn't seem sure how to judge Trump on it.

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#ClayAndBuck, on the Republican election failure— In the big picture, the Trump era is over. #USPolitics #Trump #GOP
volkris boosted

If we stick with the same Democratic leadership, I'm sure it will work out as well as it did last time.

Satire

@nomdeb first you have to remove Trump from office since he's probably not going to be prosecuting his family members.

And it needs to be done quickly before time runs out on the prosecutions.

Unfortunately, the Democrats have shown ineffectiveness, so I don't think they'll actually get it done now.

@xs4me2

They were.

That we elected congresspeople who didn't use their power to remove him doesn't change that they had that power. It just means we probably shouldn't have elected and reelected those individuals.

I think it's important to emphasize this to not let them escape accountability. So far they have, as so many of the failure got reelection... again.

I remember that as election day grew near Darline Graham was on the campaign trail telling a story about grandkids announcing pregnancies and her role in calling Lindsey Graham first with the news, using that story as a qualification for US Senate.

Think about it this way: the GOP didn't actually care about good governance. They just wanted to be a bunch of elders sitting around and chatting about families and good ol' days while collecting pensions in the sunsets of their lives. They voted based on who they wanted to visit.

We gave them a chance to get with the program, but with this election we'd had enough and finally took the keys away from grandpa who clearly can't drive anymore.

@supersquirrel

Seems like clients could do a little better to help users know where such a link is going, some extra visual clues.

The system as a whole could keep making the links because they do provide convenience, but the user interface can be a little extra helpful in helping users avoid exploits.

@a_cubed no, that's not at all what happened in Bush v Gore.

In the end it was a dispute over what the Florida court ordered, finding that the court order was unconstitutional. The Florida court was rebuffed.

The Supreme Court, sitting as a court of appeals, mainly judges lower court operations, not stuff like the will of the people.

@xs4me2 Congress has been free to remove him from office at any point.

@Nonilex well, we know quite a lot. I hope you reevaluated some assumptions!

@Nonilex

I think folks in the US haven't given enough thought to the pattern of responding to discrimination by expanding the favored groups instead of getting rid of it altogether.

It often leaves the left behind even worse off and the discrimination even more firmly cemented in place.

@jaykuo

@dannyreving

The complication is that Trump's crowd is so disconnected from reality that they might not know they lost.

After all, that's how they ended up in this mess.

@bebadefabo

Latest news I can find shows Fetterman still caucusing with Democrats. There are even reports that folks are complaining about him caucusing with them.

Republicans have been salivating about getting him to caucus with them for months now, but so far they haven't won that prize.

Why would Fetterman leave the winners table to go caucus with the losers with less power?

borderreport.com/news/fetterma

@adamrice

No, not at all.
Critically, this isn't about the Democratic Party but about a specific candidate making a change of career after an election loss.

Stevens decided to throw in the towel and looked for the most personally beneficial way of exiting the scene.

@david that's probably why she did it.

It's reasonable to think she'd already decided to end this phase of her career, so it was a win-win for her to throw this little firecracker as she was wrapping it up.

She gets headlines, her staffers get to pretend to be virtuous, El Sayed might score a few more votes (or not, I don't think it really matters to his election), and voters get a new drama to enjoy.

It's just all part of the stage production.

Keep in mind that this all could be a political pantomime, both Stevens' endorsement and the resignations.

The endorsement this close to the election won't have as much impact, especially considering votes already cast. So why do it? With the upsides attenuated, the costs weigh heavily.

It's reasonable to think Stevens has already chosen to end that phase of her career and wanted the headlines, while her staffers, instead of just being unemployed, would get this feather in their caps as they stayed in the business.

That's .

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