Paul Sutton @zleap@social.cleverlibre.org

@resynth1943@koyu.space @jaz @Hyolobrika

Reading is one thing, understanding them given that some of the ToCs are so long ) they have been compared to a Harry Potter book, and so complex you need a degree in law (or similar) to understand them.

@feditips cool thanks for that.

@TheCanine@mstdn.social @mrsaturday @realcaseyrollins @stux @jaz

I think here is the unintended consequence of free software licenses ability to run for any purpose.

@TheCanine@mstdn.social @realcaseyrollins @stux @mrsaturday @jaz

So basically it is about being able to do / say what you want without. which is clearly open to abuse.

@jcast @Hyolobrika @stux

Yes as by challenging the rules can be adapted and made more effective.

@mrsaturday @Hyolobrika @realcaseyrollins @stux @TheCanine@mstdn.social @jaz

The first point raised here could be seen as misrepresentation of facts, or even fraud, (as it involves money)

If I sell a product or service I need to be clear about what it is I am selling if I create a product and need to crowd fund then surely I need to build what I say I will, but also be open / transparent about changes (there will be issues along the way)

But to say I am going to build X when I have a hidden motive to build Y, is rather dishonest,

The problem appear sto be the legal definitions probably don't allow for crowd funding leaving grey areas and loop holes for people to exploit.

@jcast @Hyolobrika @stux

BBC news report

Online clothes sellers targeted by 'creepy' messages

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-55661022

Highlights some of the many problems admins, moderators and platforms are facing,

@stux

IS there a private instance for instance owners to discuss in private issues, and collectively come up with a few policies, swap ideas and solutions, ?

@Hyolobrika @stux

Agreed, also remember that the big platforms probably PAY moderators, most moderators here are doing it on a volunteer basis, with little support or training as they run the instances.

@Hyolobrika @jcast @stux

Put your self in the position of the person being banned would you like to be named and shamed in public.?

This platform is about privacy and getting away from the 'mob' mentality that exists elsewhere, lets build a respectable platform.

Otherwise you just end up wth that person being abused and trolled else where.

@jcast @Hyolobrika @stux

Who does one appeal to, in a court of law you are tried before your peers, hence a jury is made from 12 people from the general population who DO NOT know you or have to disclose any connections (then someone is fond to replace them) a judge is also impartial.

@emacsen @falsemirror

Do they need help setting up a jot si server or accessing big blue button. ?

@stux You just put the power in the hands of the users, which works better I guess, Don't like what people are saying, mute them and move on.

@Matter I am sure something has been mentioned before on here.