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@DrunkShawarma @lig @Matter

I agree, I tried to test Debian 11, can't get it to see the repository, during install, (mirror) so tried to install debian 10 (fine) upgrade to debian 11 and get networking issues.

All I wanted to do was to test the new Arduino beta software for the developers. I can't even get the OS to work properly.

Things need to 'just work' we need more people like me, who are not super geeky on this, to see the issues and help get these problems across to the devs so they can be addressed.

@DrunkShawarma @lig @Matter yeah, you need to relate stories to people.

When their e-reader stops reading their books due to a license issue, that isn't their fault you can explain why DRM is bad, and they don't actually own the book despite paying for it,

@DrunkShawarma @lig @Matter Indeed, on the dev list I have asked if the non free iso and the testing release can be easier to find too, help the rest of us to test / spread debian for example.

Once they have a working system we can then work on why free is better than non free and we hopefully have another person to campaign with us.

@DrunkShawarma @lig @Matter

I guess if you want it to 'just work' you use something else, like mint, which defeats the point really we can';t promote something that needs a degree in Computer science to get working, but we can't also promote something we can't directly support.

@DrunkShawarma @lig @Matter yeah

Debian is about being a free (as in freedom) os and not having all the closed source stuff, (which then breaks essential stuff like some networking)

not sure if isenkram-cli works apparently that will detect and install firmware.

@DrunkShawarma @lig @Matter Maybe there is something that can be learned from this, we need to get more people taking about privacy.

@DrunkShawarma @lig @Matter We need to make all this more accessible to people, and easier to just help without having to be a super geek.

@TonyStark @TheBatman Yeah they just are just interested in headlines and covering some stories, not others.

@TheBatman @TonyStark I saw some of this yesterday, there was one section the BBC didn't show due to violence / language, odd given that TV programs also contain violence and offensive language,.

I am sure the BBC are on the side of trump sometimes, as there was a whole program about trump yesterday, the BBC need to move on.

I would rather they showed it all, so it really brings home what happened.

Unless you like racism, QAnon conspiracy theories, and violence threats, here's an instance to block: 

@TonyStark Good point, I'll leave evidence collecting to law enforcement. l

@4ioskd@ukadon.shillest.net it seems to have moved to

moved to deepwest.xyz

or I get that up on my browser if I follow the link

Unless you like racism, QAnon conspiracy theories, and violence threats, here's an instance to block: 

@TonyStark On the other hand the more of us 'sane' people that see their words we become a witness and can tell others what we have seen. Use their 'free speech' against then,

@d3vnull Mainstream Social media companies are with any luck in for a massive shock soon, once the rioters have been jailed perhaps the CEO of twitter in this case can join then.

They have had long enough to get their act together and clean up, they have chosen not to do this and to just be complicit, and Jan 6th is a result of this, Twitter has been a platform for Trump for 4 years, + it is time to hold them to account.

They could have kicked President trump off twitter too, put the reputation of the USA first before president after all they would be following the "America First" rhetoric if they did that,

@gendercensus I can try and share this if you would like. I am from the UK too.

@schestowitz Hi you have not posted anything for a while so just thought I would ask how you were ?

@dockers This is why I don't use facebook, I don't want to be associated with a network which is populated with people such as this. It is however, nice to be reminded of this sort of behaviour as it reinforces why I don't want to be there.

At least, here on the fediverse we have proper intelligent conversations and discussions.

@DrunkShawarma @lig @Matter

I find people don't care too, a lot of people have perhaps pretty much accepted defeat on this. We need to remember that WE are their customers and income source, either directly or via adverts (pay per click) or other means (data)

@nowthisnews@newsbots.eu LOL mark of a true idiot, this lawyer is going to end up needing a new job if not careful, having trump as a client is hardly going to do reputation any good.

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