Paul Sutton @zleap@social.cleverlibre.org

@freemo @icedquinn @MaceDindu

IIRC for no pulse it is 30 compressions at 2 per second,

@freemo @MaceDindu @icedquinn

That makes sense, and should doing a pulse / breathing check be a requirement BEFORE doing CPR. ?

ABC

Airway
Breathing
Circulation

@MaceDindu @icedquinn @freemo By randos do you mean random people.

Over here if a person collapses people can dial 999 to get an ambulance but in the mean time can give CPR, the call handler can give directions to perform CPR, it has saved many lives.

@MaceDindu @icedquinn @freemo

Anyone who is trained in first aid can give CPR

@freemo @MaceDindu @icedquinn

Agreed, end of the day the cops scions resulted in George Floyd s death, and he is clearly heard saying "I can't breath"

He could have stopped, or made different choices but chose to carry on with what he was doing.

@Ariovistus @icedquinn @freemo From what I understandabout Fentanyl it Opioid based and can be or is addictive and leads to more problems than it solves.

But makes big bucks for Pharma companies.

@freemo @icedquinn This was about the same time as the Trial of George Floyd, in an alleyway in Chicago not sure, it was in the news briefly

@freemo @icedquinn and killing others before killing them selves, which is a lot worse.

I don't think people realise, how small comments (that may seem nothing) can have a big negative impact on people.

@freemo @icedquinn didn't a cop shoot a 13 year old boy about the same time of the trial, did anything come from that. ?

@icedquinn @freemo

Who investigates, here in the Uk we have an office for police conduct thatis independent.

Right now the Met Police are embroiled in quite a few sex abuse scandles, elegations of mis conduct and much more, but so far the Head of the Met Police Cressida Dick is still in charge and our Home secretary has already given her a 2 year extension to the post, this was before Wayne C|ouzens murdered (and raped) sarah Everard.

The met police is a mess, meanwhile crime is on the increase, reports of stabbings, shootings, gangs with machetes and the police seem powerless, partly due to lack of trust from the population.

@icedquinn @freemo You mean like George Floyd ?

I think if the cop had been let off, the US would have seen massive riots in every city for months.

@freemo @icedquinn Yeah good point there, and how many of those gun deaths are attributed to mental health or maybe being high on drugs or alcohol and perhaps more agitated as a result.

@freemo @icedquinn Over here if a police officer shoots someone they have to account for their actions.

Saying that the guy who attacked fishmongers hall was shot after some people subdued him

The guy tat killed the MP on Friday wasn't shot by the police when they arrived. He is currently being questioned. I am under the impression that people saw him stab the MP 17 times.

@freemo @icedquinn
+1to that,

@icedquinn @freemo

We need to make prison work, as in you go in for a long time (end of ) but while in prison it must try and help that person, so 1 if they are addicted to something then help them get over that addiction

People turn to drugs to try and get out of other problems (low self esteem, low skills, lack of employment) so once they are off drugs then figure out and actually help them gain new skills etc.

Other drug addictions seem to be down to pharma companies making meds that cause addiction so that needs fixing,

Better mental heath support is also needed, esp during the current pandemic.

Come out of prison reformed, hopefully.

@freemo @icedquinn

I seem to remember that story,

I agree she did the right thing calling the cops, what would have happened if that person had actually been breaking in with criminal intent.

Could of ended badly. Cops in the US seem on a higher state of alert, as if they expect to be attacked at every call. The difference between the US and UK is in the US people carry guns.