Calling #pinephone "beta" is really generous. It would be a crap smartphone for 8 years ago.
@2ck Well, compared to the community driven #LinuxPhone of yore, the #OpenMoko, it's already pretty good. Maybe try a few distributions, or try to see it less as a serious phone and more as a fun work in progress. Get in touch if I can help 🙂
@jawsh I wasn't expecting a showstopper, but it's really lacking functionality that I'd consider basic for a smartphone product. It makes me wonder who managed product design and testing - do they not have enough issues already to keep devs busy for a while that they need to farm more issues from customers?
@linmob
@2ck @jawsh @linmob
If I sounded harsh in one of my other replies, it's because of this:
> they need to farm more issues from customers?
That you're using the term "consumer" makes me wonder if you are aware of what this project is, and how it's developed. Did you look at the wiki before getting your Pinephone? Did you go on the forum?
As for your issues, did you try to update your phone? But I agree with @jawsh regarding Phosh being more usable right now. I don't understand this choice...
@normandc
I did read the product page. I didn't use the word "consumer". I understand that it's a community project (and that many people in that community are on Mastodon). On Masto, I'm seeing a lot of folks talking like Pinephone is a useable smartphone ("daily driver"), but having now used it, I'd say it's pretty far off the mark. Maybe the Pinephone is just meant to stay as a community project for computer geeks like us to tinker with: that's fine.
@jawsh @linmob
@2ck @jawsh @linmob
I stand corrected, I wrote consumer while you actually did write customer. Sorry, my poor excuse is it was late when I replied. Still, it may not be "daily driver" for you, but I've been using mine as such for 5 weeks now (not Plasma, mind you). It all depends on what you expect from a phone and the compromises you're willing to live with.
I'm not shy about my troubles with it either. But I don't like the alternative - going back to my Android spy device full time.
