@freemo I can think of a few others... DeSantis and RFK Jr. are really bad too.
@LouisIngenthron They are pretty bad choices, no doubt. But like i said id take pretty much anything over Biden or Trump.
@freemo I'd take BIden over either of those. At least he's relatively predictable and is vocally supportive of democracy. That second one is my baseline requirement that the others fail to meet.