@stormy178@mastodon.stormy178.com @MelodyCooper

And when someone staps someone or beats them with a bat do we cry about how bats are legal... Yes there is a problem, but absurd solutions like making guns illegal is obviously not the answer.

@freemo @stormy178@mastodon.stormy178.com @MelodyCooper
Hmm, there is a disconnect: it was stated that guns should be regulated, with strict background checks. Your reply talks of "making guns illegal".

Did you reply to the wrong toot here or do you think background checks are a bad thing? If so, do you wish for people with known agression problems (psychological disorders or former history of violent crimes) to be able to have guns?

@admitsWrongIfProven

I dont think you can see the toot i replied to, the person blocked me.

I am not against background checks in their current form, which is thurough and complete.

The one issue with the current setup is loopholes at gun shows. But that doesnt appear to be a huge source of actual problems so yra im for background checks as they exist today.
@stormy178@mastodon.stormy178.com @MelodyCooper

@freemo @stormy178@mastodon.stormy178.com @MelodyCooper
You might want to state that, the toot history i read showed you ignoring the distinction between banning and background checks... it changes the meaning completely.

@admitsWrongIfProven

No i was quite clear i was talking about a specific type of commonly proposed restriction, banning.

@stormy178@mastodon.stormy178.com @MelodyCooper

@freemo And who you responded to was quite clear that background checks matter.

@admitsWrongIfProven @freemo we already have background checks... Just not for private sale. They have straw purchase laws that making gifting a weapon a pain too. But some states do allow private sale which doesn't need to go through federal background checks. It's not a loophole. It's common sense. If I have a firearm I dont use and a friend or family member interested in buying it from me there is no need to have government involved adding their taxes and fees.
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@thatguyoverthere @freemo So it seems that either the checks are not good enough or those private sales are the problem... would need some studies about the source of the weapons used in those many shootings the usa has, i guess.

@admitsWrongIfProven @freemo the checks are fine, but saying someone has never been violent before doesn't mean they never will, and there are a lot of firearms on the streets that have been obtained through theft and black market sale. There is even some evidence that at least in the past weapons have just showed up in the inner city that could never be bought at a store. https://www.truthandaction.org/chicago-ex-gang-member-feds-dropping-crates-guns-urban-communities-years/2/
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