y'all matrix users are insufficiently jaded
@sir as a telegram user (yeah, I know) and the need to use slack on work and discord for some bad open source projects I found matrix bridges a lot helpful on my day, I can centralize all my chat communication needs on only one place and don't have to use creepy softwares to have basic conversation on those other apps. Despite that I feel and know that matrix is bloated for communication.
bonifartius 𒂼𒄄
@karl i think that matrix is a fine replacement for messengers (like you described), not necessarily as IRC replacement for huge groups. i don't really get the hate for matrix. most of the "bloat" is not matrix-the-protocol but clients or bridges. at least we have something federated with crypto now which non tech people can use. not perfect, but still better than the other messengers around.
@bonifartius @karl @sir
I too don't understand all the hate on the Matrix protocol. Yes, the server implementation is Python and is slow. Yes, Riot/Element feels slow sometimes (although mostly because of the server I guess). When the new server implementations start replacing synapse, I think that might change some opinions.
@bonifartius totally agree with you! I have to say that the bridges that I use/found until now are not bloated at all... they try to simplify the bloat from the others messenger and they do that very well. The bloated seems to be mainly from the Element client. I tried some Matrix cli and they're pretty good :)