@skadi i think especially teaching python as "simple" and "beginner friendly" is severely misguided. so many glued-on ideas (decorators, weird getter setter stuff, etc.), strings and encoding still insane. i know i'm pretty alone with it, but python 2 was much "better" imo. still not great but they completely lost me with python3k.
@velartrill it's all in the modules imho, numpy etc. that's the thing why python is so popular @skadi